<p>hey guys, i am a senior who has been rejected from all the ivys i applied to (cornell, brown, upenn) and waitlisted for NYU . i got accepted to boston university and fordham university and i have to pay around ( 10k ) for either university. i was also accepted to SUNY stony and SUNY BING but i have to pay (10k) for either SUNY as well. i have a choice to attend either SUNY or the private university but since i have to pay the exact same price for the colleges, its a no brainer that i would choose the private university over SUNY for the same price. However, i could choose to attend CUNY (hunter) and pay nothing at all. my question is that does attending a higher rank university (fordham, Boston U) gives you a BETTER CHANCE of transfering to an ivy league? that is because i dont want to go to fordham or boston U and end up getting rejected from ivy league and then spend the 4 years and accumulate my debt to 40k, i would rather attend CUNY free of cost. What should i do guys? should i attend CUNY (hunter) and try to maintain a 3.7+ GPA and then hope to get accepted to one of the ivy league ( cornell) as transfer or should i risk the chance of attending private university for first year (fordham or boston U) and pay 10k and hope to transfer out to ivy league but if i dont i will end up with 40k debt by graduation. thanks guys</p>
<p>What are you planning to study and what kind of job do you want?</p>
<p>Transferring to an ivy may not be necessary at all.</p>
<p>i am planning on studying in either economics or biology ( yeah i know they are two totally distinct majors) but im still a senior at H.S. so my future career is still undecided though depending on the core classes i take in college. If i am going to private university (fordham or Boston U), it is going to be 10k every year but if i transfer out to an ivy, i am POSITIVE that they will give me an abundant amount of financial aid and i would only have to pay about 5k at MOST. you would suggest that if i have financial problems that i should just attend a cuny but the thing is i want to go to a school that challenges me and maximize my academic knowledge and i’m pretty sure that ivy league will definitely provide that.</p>
<p>Generally it helps to attend a top 25 to transfer in the Ivy League because chances are if you could get into top 25 out of high school you had a decent shot at an Ivy. What are the individual rankings (use US News) for all the schools you are considering?</p>
<p>Also Keep in mind a fair amount of Ivies, most certainly Brown, are need aware in transfer decisions. This means it is much more competitive if you apply for financial aid.</p>
<p>Even in terms of a job following graduation, BU or Fordham might place you in a stronger, more condensed alumni network. Also, if grad school interests you, coming from a university of BU’s caliber might help you gain admission into top grad programs. Not to say you can’t achieve the same graduating from CUNY (the student makes the school, not the other way around), but attending BU or Fordham might give you a leg-up.</p>
<p>I would go with BU or Fordham. If you go to one of those schools and decide NOT to transfer, I think you’d be happier with the quality of education than if you went to CUNY and were unable to/decided not to transfer for whatever reason.</p>
<p>Um. I don’t think you should ever, ever, ever, make a decision based on the thought of transferring into an Ivy. That’s just silly for so many reasons. I mean, go ahead and apply to transfer next year, but Columbia, Brown, and one or two other Ivies are need-aware for transfers so already the most hyper-selective schools in the country become more competitive for you since financial aid is an issue. (By the way, don’t be fooled by Cornell’s transfer acceptance rate, that’s inflated do to articulation agreements with community colleges). </p>
<p>Also, if you enroll in a school you wouldn’t be happy graduating from and find yourself rejected from all the ivies again, you’ll also find that it will be difficult to have reasonable safeties to transfer into, as transfers rarely receive merit aid and traditionally receive little financial aid. </p>
<p>Anyone that would advise you plan to transfer to an ivy league doesn’t know what they’re talking about. </p>
<p>And in response to your question about whether prestige of former institution plays a role in competitive transfer admissions, often it does, but it’s typically a surprisingly small influence.</p>
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<p>While B is definitely need aware for transfers, I’m not sure where these comments about other Ivies are coming from.</p>
<p>Columbia:</p>
<p>[Frequently</a> Asked Questions (for Transfer Students) | Columbia University Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/applications/transfer_faq.php#32]Frequently”>http://www.studentaffairs.columbia.edu/admissions/applications/transfer_faq.php#32)</p>
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<p>Do not confuse need-blind admissions with limited FA for transfers (same link):</p>
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<p>Penn:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/info/Penn_Transfer_Guide.pdf[/url]”>http://www.admissions.upenn.edu/info/Penn_Transfer_Guide.pdf</a></p>
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<p>While I can’t find a statement specifically concerning transfers, D does say this (also, D1 applied as a transfer to D and I think I’d remember if they were need aware):</p>
<p>[Covering</a> the Cost of Dartmouth](<a href=“Home | Dartmouth Admissions”>Home | Dartmouth Admissions)</p>
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<p>Cornell similar to D, can’t find anything for transfers, but the general admissions page says:</p>
<p>[Cornell</a> University - Admissions - Overview](<a href=“http://www.cornell.edu/admissions/]Cornell”>Admissions | Cornell University)</p>
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<p>I know that H&Y are need blind for transfers.</p>
<p>You are in the same position as I am in! I am a senior who wants to transfer to school that’s better for my major. I think you should go with the less costly choice. When you transfer, the colleges will see your high school GPA and the courses you have taken, so it’s not like they will think you are incapable of doing better than Hunter College. I am going to my state flagship in the fall since I did not make it into my top choice.</p>
<p>hey rain202, i was thinking about just going hunter college free of cost and try to transfer out to an ivy but if that fail, i will be stuck in hunter for 4 years and i dont think i will get the best education from there compare to attending a private university such as ( fordham or boston U ) they are both rank 53 on usweekly. however, the cost of 4 year attendence to those private university will be too much burden for my family financially so i am really confused as to what to do …</p>
<p>Don’t go into college with the intention of transferring. You have good options. Pick the best AFFORDABLE fit, and succeed there. If you do well, you will be employed or get into an ivy league grad school later.</p>