<p>thanks gellino-- i'm just trying to assess if academic improvement trends should have any bearing on my decision. i'm seeing this large increase in Tufts' SAT scores, not knowing what this really means, but it can't be bad, right? or can it? </p>
<p>looking at the Tufts factbook, the average M+V SAT numbers have risen from 1333 to 1405 in 4 years. So, Tufts started around where Colgate started given your Colgate numbers, but the Tufts numbers have steeper growth. again, i don't know what this means in my case, just fishing around for some opinions on these two schools comparatively.</p>
<p>last point on academic experience catching up so to speak.....i was guessing that with such a steep rise in freshman SAT, the Tufts experience itself (not what employers might think) must be changing. 100 points change in the average student is a lot, and I can't imagine that classroom conversations and other subtle or not so subtle things will change or have changed with the change in students. again, just fishing around for anyone with an opinion on what this might mean for someone like me weighing school options.</p>
<p>btw gellino-- i have read many of your prior posts on the Colgate forum. you are a good spokesperson, & Colgate's school spirit among other things has great appeal to me.</p>
<p>I agree with jagerken about city vs rural. I had that choice too in my freshmen admissions- between Smith College and American University. I realized, wait a minute, I have my summers and whole life to spend in DC, why should I go to AU? I don't get a chance to be in a semi-rural setting.</p>
<p>Even when I was transferring out of Smith (to Colgate) I knew that I <em>still</em> wanted to be in a rural area, I still didn't want to be in a city! So all of my possible transfer schools were in rural areas. </p>
<p>And I've been able to spend the last two summers in DC and am perfectly happy with the system- summers in a city, school year in a rural area :) I was always ready to go back to either places at the end of my term at each!</p>
<p>Thanks for the endorsement, unourite. I think there comes a point where you just have to go with what feels right, especially considering the basic similarities between these two in the first place. There were certainly many people at Colgate who were accepted at Tufts also and I'm sure the reverse goes on in Somerville, MA too.</p>
<p>Colgate has an amazingly supportive alumni network. My D, a sophmore just came down to NYC this week for summer internship interviews at prominent, household name companies which were set up by Career Services. Her room mates also got a number of interviews at companies in areas where they were interested. I think that's pretty remarkable for 2nd year students. Most students there apparently feel very strongly that the connections available will give them excellent chances for post grad jobs. </p>
<p>While we don't know the outcome yet of my D's two choices, she had very supportive interviews at both - with Colgate alums.</p>
<p>hey everybody....after visiting last spring, I fell in love with Colgate and the spirited people here, and I'm now a 'Gate Raider. Enjoying every minute of it, and I couldn't be happier. I just wanted to report that visiting overnight turned out the be the best way to figure all of this out. and jagerken, your comments on urban versus rural really made me think & helped me shape my opinion-- thanks.</p>
<p>hey, im from pakistan and i too have been accepted at both colgate and tufts. i was wondering which one to choose.....and can anybody tell me if they have community washrooms or not?????</p>
<p>Hey I just transferred from Colgate to Tufts and have so far met 5 others here who have done the same thing. I absolutely LOVE Tufts. While Colgate was filled with some incredible people it was not diverse, too isolated and placed a huge emphasis on the Greek scene… none of which really appealed to me. You should try to do an over night at both schools. Ultimately, this decision should be your own and not based on what you read from this site.</p>
<p>Re #17-18 above, here’s some data circa 1971
Colgate admitted 36% (26th lowest % nationally) avg SAT 1256 (old scale)
Tufts admitted 22% (10th lowest % nationally) , avg SAT 1260 (old scale)
Amherst 20% (#5) 1336 (one of these #s may have been estimated)
Williams 26% (#17) 1304</p>