<p>There are two early decisions in Smith College,and I wanna if someone apply to Columbia ED for instance,then get deferred or something,is it possible for her to apply winter early decision in Smith?Because the deadline is Jan.Confused...</p>
<p>Yes. ED II is exactly for capturing students who may have been turned down or deferred ED elsewhere.</p>
<p>Fwiw, Columbia turned out to be very unlike Smith. It had been D's #1 on paper and after visiting both she didn't bother to apply to Columbia whereas Smith climbed to no worse than #2, more likely #1B, after visiting.</p>
<p>Ah, thanks for asking this. </p>
<p>Actually this whole post is pretty funny. Wanna hear a story? (I'm really bored. I hate summer.)</p>
<p>Sure, tell us a story.</p>
<p>cool....Actually now that I'm thinking of it, it really isn't all that interesting. </p>
<pre><code> Anyway, I originally planed on applying to Columbia ED too. This was a while ago but Columbia was everything I loved. I couldn't come up with one thing I disliked about the school. At all. But suddenly one day reality hit me saying "you have no chance". I guess in a way it was this site which made me give up on Columbia and look for new schools. I saw people with perfect SAT's getting rejected and that just blew my confidence.
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<p>So during this search I came across Smith because of their engineering program. And although my aspirations had changed drastically since that day, I still loved Smith. Yes it was completely different than columbia but I'm a gemini (Nice excuse huh?) so I blamed loving the two schools on that. (In fact, everything I ever bought from columbia's bookstore is still on my wall. I was too lazy to take it down. Only last week did it hit me that it was still there. I had completely forgotten about it.) </p>
<p>For over 6 months I loved Smith and when I visited, it only increased my love. Figuring all my scores were in the ballpark of Smithies, I decided to apply ED. Everything seemed to fit perfectly. But then last Thursday came. The day SAT scores came out. When I told my father the score I had received on both the subject tests and the reasoning (taken different months but I told him both at the same time) he decided I would "have" to apply to Columbia now. Previously he wanted me to try for Harvey Mudd no matter what but it seems finally, he listened to my wants. (Took him long enough.) And all of a sudden, sitting there in Burger King with a Whopper in my mouth, what he said hit me like a lightning bolt. (Coincidentally enough, there was a thunderstorm going on outside.) It looked like Columbia was back on my list. Later on that evening I went to my schools graduation where the alumni speaker was from where else but Columbia. Granted his speech was HORRIBLE (he didn't prepare anything but it was hilarious) but some of the stories he told made me want to go there again. So when I got home after a nice IHop outing with the Columbia guy and a few other friends I checked up and Columbia's stats and decided if my dad was making me apply, why not apply Early Decision? I mean, I wanted to go there more than anything for over a year and now again. It just makes sense. </p>
<p>And that was the really pointless story. I find it funny how the op wants to apply to Columbia ED and Smith ED II if you don't get in considering that's exactly what I want to do right now. I do have to admit though that I have more things on the con list for Smith than for Columbia but still, I wouldn't mind going to either.</p>
<p>A con from D's point of view about Columbia: she left at us a table in one of the on-campus dining facilities and went around talking to Columbia students, probably the most extensively she talked to students at any campus save, much later, Smith & Wellesley when it came down to crunch time. </p>
<p>The tour & info session had been okay or a little better but nothing that knocked her socks off. She came back to our table kind of downbeat. She said that <em>nobody</em> volunteered talking about Columbia classes or academics as something they really liked. A lot mentioned how great it was to be in New York, some about the connections, etc. </p>
<p>She and I were talking just the other day about how listening to what current students talked about was one of the most helpful things to her in helping her gauge where she "fit." She was really disappointed at the time not to have clicked with Columbia...on paper, it had sounded so good to her. But she gave it a more in-depth exploration that she did many schools and it just didn't click.</p>
<p>Talking to current students is a great help. One of the things I really liked about Barnard when I visited was that every single student my tour ran into was like "Come to Barnard, it's awesome!" or "I love going to school here, this place is amazing for reason A, B and C", totally unsolicited, just cause they were excited about it. Smithies weren't <em>quite</em> as exuberant, mostly because they don't like to get in the way of us tour guides (we can be pretty forceful when we're in full admissions mode), but in private they were very forthcoming and honest. That's why overnights are so important. </p>
<p>Karen, follow your gut. If Columbia is where you're supposed to be, where you have a good chance of succeeding and thriving, then the admissions officers will see that and you'll get a big envelope. If not, well, the school that you're better suited for will take you. Why not take a chance on a dream that might pay off?</p>
<p>I'm a Columbia Alum, undergrad and graduate school, but I have one at Smith and one at Bryn Mawr. I let them drive the process and I did not push Columbia on them. Their requirement was small and suburban/rural so Columbia obviously did not meet that criteria. I agree with SmithieandProud, go with your instincts and what feels right. Both of mine did and they are both very happy with their choices and so am I.</p>
<p>=) Aww.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone. And to thedad- when I was at smith noone talked about classes either. Even when I asked them they gave me very short answers and then started discussing what was for dinner. And we were in a class at the time too! Nonetheless, I don't really mind that. I don't exactly want a school where everyone talks about classes all the time and nothing else. It would remind me too much of my high school.
Oh and I have many friends who go to Columbia already so I know what it's like there and what the people are like. Well, to an extent.</p>
<p>ED II worked for my D after being waitlisted at Amherst. Best thing that ever happened to her! lol :)</p>
<p>Waitlisted or deferred, BJM8? I didn't know that schools waitlisted after the ED round.</p>
<p>I believe he means that his D was waitlisted when applying to Amherst ED. She then applied to Smith ED II. And the rest is herstory.</p>
<p>I thought the outcomes with ED were: accepted, rejected or deferred (you went into the RD pool of candidates for consideration). Once you were in the RD pool you were either accepted, rejected or waitllisted.</p>
<p>I think BJM and I used the same incorrect term, "waitlisted" for "deferred" to mean, "you didn't get in, we roll you over to the RD round."</p>
<p>Correct TD. She was deferred at Amherst early decision, and then applied ED II at Smith and got in as a STRIDE.</p>