Tyler School of Art

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<p>Hello,</p>

<p>Am cross posting since I have not gotten responses on a more general forum.</p>

<p>Until now I have been encouraging S to focus on LACs rather than art schools. Two reasons:
1) financial aid is usually very limited at art schools and we are 0 EFC
2) he has always talked about double majoring in math, his other passion.</p>

<p>LACs seem to suit him more because of their smaller size and higher student/prof ratio.</p>

<p>Weighted GP 100 (frshman, sophomore and current junior year)
Sophomore PSATs 1400 CR + M
10 APs by graduation, 2 of them self-studied </p>

<p>However...a smaller setting within a university might also be wonderful? We visited Brown/RISD where we heard about the dual degree program and he loved the idea of serious art combined with serious academics, and he loved the idea of a core group of peers within a larger university setting.</p>

<p>Yale and Brown and Williams and Pomona and Wesleyan and Cornell and some of the smaller LACs sound wonderful...but they are all reaches, just for the sheer fact of low acceptance rates.</p>

<p>Which brings me to my point. As I see S and how serious he is about pursuing art, maybe his safeties/matches should include more universities with strong art rather than LACs which are higher ranked but do not have the faculty or facilities or the critical mass of students who are passionate about art. Carnegie Mellon is on the radar but we are not sure about financial aid. </p>

<p>What do parents/students know of Temple ? They have a Pres scholarship which sounds like a full scholarship andto be honest I am very impressed with the faculty credentials. Why haven't I thought of this before? Is there a reason? Is there a reason not to? The Honors program is about 1,500 kids -- the size of a LAC. Would he be able to be in the honors program through Tyler? Finally, I don't see a dual degree like Cornell's where you can cross-reg between schools within the university, getting both a BA and BFA. Right?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

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<p>i’ll send you a private message when I have time. Our kids sound simalar except for mine, it’s drama, not art. Temple is my kid’s first choice after lots of research. Some of it will boil down to your kid and what they want too. For example, mine loves the big city vibe and gravitates towards big state schools. It is just what he likes so Temple is a great match in those areas too even though these areas have nothing to do with his major.</p>

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<p>i looked at your note again. one downside of Temple may be the financial aid office. Yes, they have great merit aid but it is for tuition and 1 to 3 stipends. That still leaves room and board and other expenses. I’ve read about nightmares dealing with Temple’s FA office. I have no first hand experience. We have a high EFC so most of our “need based” FA will be student and Plus loans. Due to this, a poor FA office, if that is accurate, is less of an issue for us than it will be for your family. I am assuming the merit aid will be correctly credited to my son’s tuition. with good stats like your kids and a low EFC, he may get lots of need based aid to go somewhere else. Temple may still be an awesome choice for him. I know for my kid, it has a strong theatre dept and i have heard good things about Tyler too. Since they upped their merit aid, a lot of high stats kids are applying so this will impact their honors program and presumably make it better. I have the impression it is very good already. As I learn more about the honors program, I will let you know since mine is a senior. Have you gotten in touch with Questbridge? They are a national program that works to get high end kids with limited family resources to the top colleges. Also, back to Temple, one key perk of honors is guaranteed housing for 4 years and the honors dorm is supposed to be great. Temple, as you may know, is adjacent to a rough part of Philly and due to this, has less close off campus living options than other schools. The school apparently helps the kids with off campus living, such as looking the lease over before kids sign it, so that helps too.</p>

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<p>Thanks very much mommabear. Yes we are planning on applying through Questbridge and it looks like a wonderful program. I k eep telling S not to count on it however, it gets more competitive every year to become a finalist, and from what I understand not every finalist actually gets admitted to a Questbridge school-- they are really selective. So we are looking for less selective schools with terrific fin aid and excellent art depts. There are some really good LACs but the art depts seem to be underresourced, maybe five profs in the dept only a handful of art majors, leading to few higher level art classes and no studio space until senior year. He is serious about art but it is hard to know what would be a good situation for him. At least your kid likes the big city vibe and sounds pleased with Temple’s theater dept, what a nice fit – good luck!</p>

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<p>momcinco, I saw something that Tyler is actually in Elkins Park, not on the main campus. It’s not that FAR away but there are some bad areas in between main campus and Elkins park, it might be Jenkintown. anyway, if what i saw is right, that raises some additional questions, eg where does kid live, how to get back and forth, do they take all classes at Tyler, etc. and i could have misread location but wanted to bring this to your attention.</p>

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<p>Tyler is located on the main campus. It moved there in 2009.</p>

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<p>oh good. ignore my other post then. thanks microgem!!! and if you want to offer any other insights on Temple and Philly, we are all ears!</p>

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<p>My D is currently a sophomore at Temple and a Graphic Design student at Tyler. She loves the school and being in Philly with all it has to offer.</p>

<p>She is not in the honors program, but I do know that there are many honors students in the art school. They do get special perks being like the honors dorm & getting to sign up for classes earlier. </p>

<p>She chose Temple because she wanted an art school in a larger university setting in a city. I liked that Temple’s tuition was less expensive than most other art schools we looked at.</p>

<p>Let me know if you have any specific questions I can answer.</p>

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<p>sounds like our kids have a bit in common. He too wants the urban environment in college. and cost plays a role too. He’d love NYC too but it’s pricey and Temple is more affordable. and he likes both NYC and Philly. most of my concerns are on keeping him safe. How do kids safely get to and from places in Philly? Say it’s Friday night and they want to go party wherever philly college students do so and they get back to Temple at midnight. Can they still ride subway back to cecil b moore station that late or would they be wiser taking taxi at that time? I assume taxis are willing to go to Temple, esp if they can come through Central city to get there? should he avoid late off campus parties in the nearby dicey areas?</p>

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<p>When we first visited Temple we were concerned about the area. After touring the campus, hearing the talk they give, and speaking with our student tour guide that lived off campus, I felt much better about it. They are well aware of their location, have great security & the campus is brightly lit at night.</p>

<p>We live close to NYC, so she is used to dealing with a big city. My daughter goes into Center City quite often & uses the subway. Most of the parties she goes to are at houses right off campus. She uses common sense & makes sure she has friends to walk with at night. She currently lives on campus, but will be living in an off campus apartment next year.</p>

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<p>My daughter just got into Tyler for Graphic Design as well and is quite excited. She is also applying to Drexel,BU,RIT and TCNJ. She was going to apply to Syracuse but decided against it once she heard from Temple.</p>

<p>We’ve visited all the schools I’ve mentioned and she even spent the month of July at BU. Having said that she vastly prefers Philadelphia as a city and it probably is down to Drexel and Temple at this point.</p>

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<p>When we visited Drexel we were very impressed with their Graphic Design dept. and liked the Co-op aspect of it. My daughter liked Temple’s campus better and it was always her top choice school. We liked that the cost was much less than most of the schools she applied to. </p>

<p>She’s extremely happy at Temple and is in the middle of her sophomore year, so if you have any specific questions, let me know.</p>

<p>Also, if I remember correctly, Drexel’s Graphic Design is a BS degree program, while Temple’s and most others are BFA degrees. I think with a BS you take a more equal amount of Gen Ed & Art classes.</p>

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<p>My daughter even spent a day a day at Drexel taking a graphic design class and certainly was impressed. It’s going to be interesting to see what she is going to ultimately decide. Although I like the idea of the Co-op aspect of it, I’m not sure that it’s actually looks better than a degree from Tyler at the end of the day. Obviously the price of Temple doesn’t hurt either.</p>

<p>It is certainly reassuring to hear how much your daughter as well as others really enjoy Tyler and life at Temple. </p>

<p>You are correct about Drexel’s Graphic Design program being a BS as opposed to a BFA. I imagine it doesn’t really matter all that much when it comes to job hunting. My understanding is when one finally is out in the “real world”, the portfolio and your degree (whether BS or BFA) is really what matters.</p>

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<p>Tyler School of Art is a great school! My daughter just got accepted. I called the admissions department and they said it was a very competitive admissions process and they only accept 180 students per year. We checked out RISD, PAFA and MICA (who offered my daughter an early acceptance admission option) but chose Tyler. RISD and MICA are very competitive and very expensive. Tyler is ranked #1 in Pa, #5 in the north east and # 12 in the USA according to the 2013 Princeton Review. You can’t go wrong for the price (hopefully you are not out of state). It has a wonderful reputation and has state of the art facilities since it was moved to the main campus only 5 years ago. The building was designed specifically for the arts. It also has digital printing. With being on the main campus, there are many courses to choose from outside of the arts programs. Both my niece and nephew went there, loved it and knew to use common sense in the area. The train is 2 blocks from campus and is 1 stop from center city and 3 stops from 30th Street station which is the hub of Philadelphia’s transportation system. There are campus police who will escort you to the train station. With the art college on campus, the art kids can have a diverse population to interact with. Hope this helps with the decision making process.</p>

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<p>fleura, wonderful post. thanks. Mine is going to Temple, although not to Tyler, and everything u are saying confirms my research that he will be safe at Temple so long as he uses common sense. And you are confirming that the kids LOVE it there. Great news on both accounts.</p>

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<p>2013 - Tyler School of Art - ranking from the Princeton Review:</p>

<p>Pennsylvania</p>

<h1>1 - Applied Arts</h1>

<h1>1 - Sculpture (PAFA #2)</h1>

<h1>1 - Preforming Arts</h1>

<h1>2 - Painting and Drawing (PAFA #1)</h1>

<h1>3 - General Fine Arts</h1>

<h1>5 - Design and Animation</h1>

<p>North East Region</p>

<h1>2 - Applied Arts</h1>

<h1>2 - Sculpture</h1>

<h1>4 - Preforming Arts</h1>

<h1>7 - Painting and Drawing</h1>

<h1>9 - Arts Management</h1>

<h1>18 - Design and Animation</h1>

<h1>20 - General Fine Arts</h1>

<p>Nationwide</p>

<h1>3 Applied Arts</h1>

<h1>3 Sculpture</h1>

<h1>4 Preforming Arts</h1>

<h1>13 Painting and Drawing</h1>

<h1>27 Arts Management</h1>

<h1>66 Design and Animation</h1>

<h1>88 General Fine Arts</h1>

<p>The fields of industrial design, graphic design, fashion design, interior design and the decorative arts are considered applied arts.</p>

<p>My daughter is undecided but will most likely go for Sculpture or Painting and Drawing so it is a great choice for her. </p>

<p>Hope this helps in evaluation the value of the program compared to the cost of the program.</p>

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<p>TYLER SCHOOL OF ART offers 20 talent based scholarships ranging from $3,000.00 per year to full admission.</p>

<p>This is a list of Temple’s automatic scholarships for freshman based only on high school academic achievement: There are also other scholarships they can apply for in their sophomore, junior and senior years.</p>

<p>President’s Scholars<br>
Pennsylvania and Non-Pennsylvania residents</p>

<p>Full Tuition plus three $4,000 educational enhancement stipends for approved study abroad, research, internships, or other summer academic activities.</p>

<p>CRITERIA:
High School GPA ≥ 3.75
SAT CR + Math ≥ 1400
ACT Composite Score ≥ 32</p>

<p>Provost’s Scholars
Pennsylvania residents…$10,000
Non-Pennsylvania residents…$18,000</p>

<p>CRITERIA:
High School GPA ≥ 3.4
SAT CR + Math ≥ 1350
ACT Composite Score of ≥ 31</p>

<p>Deans’ Scholars
Pennsylvania residents…$8,000
Non-Pennsylvania residents…$14,000</p>

<p>CRITERIA:
High School GPA ≥ 3.4
SAT CR + Math ≥ 1300
ACT Composite Score of ≥ 29</p>

<p>Founder’s Scholarships
Pennsylvania residents…$5,000
Non-Pennsylvania residents…$9,000</p>

<p>CRITERIA:
High School GPA ≥ 3.0
SAT CR + Math ≥ 1250
ACT Composite Score of ≥ 28</p>

<p>University Scholarships
Pennsylvania residents…$3,000
Non-Pennsylvania residents…$5,000</p>

<p>CRITERIA
High School GPA ≥ 3.0
SAT CR + Math ≥ 1150
ACT Composite Score of ≥ 25</p>

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<p>Great information, thanks. My daughter heard last week but we got the official letter today. Very very exciting. I need to get a copy of the Princeton review book as I was unaware that they ranked each specialty separately. My daughter wants to major in Graphic Design so being ranked 3 in the country is certainly not too shabby.</p>

<p>We did visit MICA as well but after that trip (we previously saw Mass Art), she decided a pure art school was not for her and really wanted the atmosphere of a University. Certainly Temple has that in spades.</p>

<p>As I posted earlier she is looking at other schools but I just don’t see how you can beat the combination of an Art school of Tyler’s caliber that is actually part of a University that offers everything else one can want. It really does seem to be the best of both worlds.</p>

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<p>Tyler is a well recognized art school. I agree that a well rounded student body is an advantage. It gives our artists a way to balance themselves within a mini real world of “regular” people rather than being exposed only to their like kind.</p>

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<p>I went to TCNJ for my undergraduate degree. I would not recommend it for artists. I went for art education and it was a wonderful college fro teachers in the making.</p>