@briank82 Seems to have an issue with people who post about things they have seen happen throughout their lifetime and also seems to purposefully lie on others when losing arguments. I wouldn’t feel comfortable taking advice from someone who would go this low on a public forum.
oh my godddd.
"You did try to lie on me. You said that GPA matters as if that was what I was arguing against. "
So in other words, you’re saying that I didn’t say you said GPA doesn’t matter. Gotcha. I never said you said that and I’m not responsible that you feel those words reflect “as if” that’s what you said. “as if” in itself implies that I didn’t say it. You really want to talk about being salty and butthurt? This is the definition of it here. I said GPA matters. Period. The irony in this is that you’re lying by saying I lied, and using it to attack my credibility … when I never said you lied.
I “screwed up” by picking a fight with some random stranger on the internet has blown up in my face? You’ve got issues.
“by some fool who thinks he can talk to people any kind of way.”
Says the guy who is calling people stupid. Yeah, that’s not contradictory at all, and once again you’re trying to hold this thread hostage by threatening to post twice for everyone single post of mine. Classy move.
Holistic doesn’t necessarily mean: “Oh he has a bad GPA…but that’s fine, look he worked in retail!”
It means: “Oh look, he has an excellent GPA. Let’s hope everything else is also excellent.”
Again, it doesn’t mean “only one thing has to be excellent, and the rest average-good.”
It means, “everything has to be excellent…we’re not just looking at one thing (GPA, scores, ECs, etc.).”
adding on to what solostish said, holistic also = one really good thing or circumstance MIGHT be enough to for them to overlook a shortcoming in your application
Very well put
@Molisha “adding on to what solostish said, holistic also = one really good thing or circumstance MIGHT be enough to for them to overlook a shortcoming in your application”
Exactly, it could mean this, too because plenty of people get into the school without the “excellent” GPA.
"Holistic doesn’t necessarily mean: "Oh he has a bad GPA…but that’s fine, look he worked in retail!
It means:Oh look, he has an excellent GPA. Let’s hope everything else is also excellent."
I have already explained this earlier. The holistic review helps EVERYONE, not just those who have a low GPA. I specifically told @briank82 “All I have said is that the holistic review process may help an applicant get admitted with a lower GPA. As a matter of fact, the holistic review process helps out EVERYONE in the admissions process. It’s not a situation in which high GPA’s do not need the holistic review process and low GPA’s need it. I don’t understand why we are arguing about something that can benefit everyone.”
So, don’t try and correct me as if I believe holism means something that it is not.
@briank82 You attacked me and tried to bring the relevance of GPA into the argument as if I explicitly said or stood up for those with a lower GPA and made them feel as if the holistic review process with take everything other than their “low” GPA into account.
We can go back and forth, but everyone on here is pretty much saying everything that I have already said. I am one step ahead of you all and I don’t know why you are all trying to find reason to fight me.
I know exactly what the definition of holism is and I have accurately represented my argument in this thread.
@briank82 I am not trying to hold any thread hostage. I am trying to help others, but you feel the need to start crap with me. If you want to keep arguing with me, then I will continue to argue back. You are the one at fault here. My hands are clean because I helped someone out and out of spite, you brought up something so small, only to get a reaction out of me.
Furthermore, @solostish you also stop trying to attack me as if I made it seem like a low GPA applicant only benefits from the holistic review process. I have posted above, in my own words, that I know the holistic process helps all. SO, what exactly is it with you people in trying to find a reason to attack me? I am doing nothing wrong, and I am also giving out good advice that others in need find very helpful!
I don’t understand where all the hate is coming from. However, I don’t mind a little hate. I will continue to stand up for my beliefs and if anyone wants to fight me on them, it is fine with me!
@RAHforHEE Your just not producing any valid or useful arguments. The last 15 pages of this blog have been nonsense of you going back and forth with everybody else and going nowhere with it.
*“You said that GPA matters as if that was what I was arguing against.”
“So, don’t try and correct me as if I believe holism means something that it is not.”
“You attacked me and tried to bring the relevance of GPA into the argument as if I explicitly said or stood up for those with a lower GPA”
“and made them feel as if the holistic review process with take everything other than their “low” GPA into account.”
“Furthermore, @solostish you also stop trying to attack me as if I made it seem like a low GPA applicant only benefits from the holistic review process.”*
Again with the “as if.” So, in other words, you’re saying that nobody actually said these things. That this is how you have twisted our words and managed to somehow become offended by them by them, even though these things actually wren’t said. What you’re saying is that you’re overly sensitive, that nobody EVER said these things, and this is how you’re incorrectly interpreting them.
Thanks for clearing that up.
If you get into Berkeley, you’re going to have a rough time if you’re running around accusing people that you’re offended by things they never said, but it was as if they said them. I can see it now …
-Berkeley Student to @RAHforHEE “Hey, nice hat!”
- @RAHforHEE to Berkeley Student “What’s that supposed to mean!?! It’s as if you’re saying my other hats aren’t nice too!!! I will stand here all day and go back and forth with you all day–I don’t care–to defend myself from these attacks!”
Pretty much how you sound.
Oh, and now @solostish is “attacking” you because they posted their feelings on the topic and they might be different than yours? You play the victim card well, as you’re a martyr for your most noble cause.
@briank82
“Again with the “as if.” So, in other words, you’re saying that nobody actually said these things. That this is how you have twisted our words and managed to somehow become offended by them by them, even though these things actually wren’t said. What you’re saying is that you’re overly sensitive, that nobody EVER said these things, and this is how you’re incorrectly interpreting them.”
You are only pointing out the “as if” parts of the statements, but fail to realize the premise of my argument. People are INDIRECTLY saying these things to me and it’s not a question of whether or not they said it; it is in the context of their words. People are either being sarcastic or subtle in their arguments against me. It is very clear that @solostish was referring to me when he/she spoke up about the real interpretation of what holistic review means, however, he/she failed to realize that I actually DID speak up on this very topic. @solostish tried to indirectly confront me. Who else might he/she had been talking to? No one else defended or brought up the subject other than myself.
I’m not going to have a rough time at all if I were to ever get into UCB because I am sure the students won’t attempt to point out small stuff in peoples arguments like, “Oh, you’re missing a word” or purposeful antagonizing against others for no apparent reason. Even if I DID bump into someone with this issue, I wouldn’t mind battling it out.
“Your just not producing any valid or useful arguments. The last 15 pages of this blog have been nonsense of you going back and forth with everybody else and going nowhere with it.”
I am not the one starting these arguments. If you look at the thread, none of this arguments sparked from my own will. It was started by others. It’s sad that you are jumping on the bandwagon here, and fail to see that I am the innocent one here.
We can keep going back and forth, guys. But it does nothing for this thread. It should be clear by now that I am backing down from anyone. So, keep throwing your rocks, I will stand tall in this thread. I am not going anywhere, so get used to it and respect my opinions and help that I am offering to others. I should not be the highlight of this thread.
“@solostish tried to indirectly confront me.”
No, they didn’t. They give their opinion on the discussion, which you described as you being “attacked.” Believe it or not, not everything is a slight against you. Not everybody is out to get you. People disagreeing with your position does not mean they’re attacking you.
“I am not the one starting these arguments.”
Just because you claim you didn’t start them, doesn’t mean you’re producing valid or useful arguments to defend this most noblest of crusades you’re on. The comment you responded to never said you started the argument, it was that you’re not “not producing any valid or useful arguments.”
Yes, we’ve heard you a million times … you’re innocent … your hands are clean … you did nothing wrong. Again, you play the victim card well.
“I am not going anywhere, so get used to it and respect my opinions”
So, we have to respect your opinions? But any opinion different from yours you describe as an attack? LOL.
“I should not be the highlight of this thread.”
I think most on here would agree that you’ve been a low point in this thread, and looking through your past posts in other threads you’ve been involved with, that’s a theme that comes across in a number of them. Not surprising though that you’d think of yourself as a highlight of it lol.
@RAHforHEE - @briank82 was trying to prevent the spread of misinformation. Considering he’s a Haas applicant, and is pretty active on CC (answering people’s questions often), it’s safe to say he knows what he’s talking about, especially in regards to Haas. We are not picking any fights. You have resorted to calling some of us stupid, you have made sarcastic remarks about my major, and you have been acting like a supreme know-it-all, all while producing zero substantial contributions to the thread at all. I have no personal vendetta against you, nor does anybody else, but please stop throwing a fit every time somebody disagrees with you, or expands upon/clarifies something you have said. It’s entirely unproductive, and it detracts from the purpose of this thread altogether.
It’d be a shame if this thread got shut down. Let’s all be adults and prevent that from happening. And please don’t point the finger at other people in response.
“No, they didn’t. They give their opinion on the discussion, which you described as you being “attacked.” Believe it or not, not everything is a slight against you. Not everybody is out to get you. People disagreeing with your position does not mean they’re attacking you.”
My POINT is. There was no reason to give me that opinion because I already STATED what she tried to explain to me. She tried to explain that the holistic review process is used for everyone that applies, and that’s what I said. Either he/she did not read the posts well enough or he/she was, like I proposed, indirectly accusing/assaulting me of releasing propaganda.
"Just because you claim you didn’t start them, doesn’t mean you’re producing valid or useful arguments to defend this most noblest of crusades you’re on. The comment you responded to never said you started the argument, it was that you’re not “not producing any valid or useful arguments.”
I AM producing valid/useful arguments, whether or not you agree with them is independent of the validity of my argument. I stated that the holistic review process could help a lower than average GPA and the said that the holistic review process helps everyone.
You’re not so innocent, either, because you contribute to the argument. Everyone is attacking me for going back and forth with you but no one gives you crap for starting the argument in the first place, let alone, adding fuel to the fire. There was actually no fire to begin with. I helped someone out and answered their question and that person has even privately emailed me and thanked me for the advice. You seem to think my post was non-beneficial to anyone.
I AM innocent because I answered someones question and @briank82 decided to start an argument with me for the sake of arguing.
@goldencub You’re philosophy, right?
I’ve taken what seems like every type of class under the sun, but I’ve yet to take anything with philosophy. I’ll be taking a comparative religion course over the winter session at Foothill to knock out a breadth class though, which I’m pretty sure falls under their philosophy department. Should be interesting.
“was trying to prevent the spread of misinformation.”
What misinformation did I give? @CoreyL asked a question about his chances and I brought up the holistic review process being something that may help him out as an applicant. What was so misinforming about that? I also even explained that the process is beneficial to all! There was no misleading information given and @briank82 blew it up out of proportion.
“please stop throwing a fit every time somebody disagrees with you”
Why is it that others can throw a fit at me for disagreeing with them but I cannot throw a fit in return? It takes two to tango! Everyone has an issue with what I have to say, yet when I have an issue with what they have to say, it is wrong. That’s not fair at all.
“It’s entirely unproductive, and it detracts from the purpose of this thread altogether.”
“I think most on here would agree that you’ve been a low point in this thread”
You only find me to be the low point of the thread because I said something you disagree with! That is not rational.
@briank82
“So, we have to respect your opinions? But any opinion different from yours you describe as an attack? LOL.”
There is a difference between respecting someones opinion and arguing profusely against them. Not one time have you said you respected my opinion, you have only tried, many times, to prove that you are right over me! That is not showing respect for someone else’s opinion, but rather trying to convert someone on to your side, despite how strong they feel about their position.