From what I’ve heard, ucberkeley is just about as difficult to get in from out of state as Harvard, Yale, etc., but from in state, all you have to do is get, like, top 10% or something.
<p>Out of state isn't as hard to get into as HYPS, maybe as hard as a lower Ivy. In-state acceptance isn't guaranteed, even for top candidates. It's probably the most selective public college in the country.</p>
<p>seriously? that's awesome. there is hope for me yet...</p>
<p>Public schools do not have as much time to evaluate your application as private schools because of the number of students that apply to them. I believe that they use simple cutoff formulas and automatically reject applicants that fall below a certain point just to reduce the paperwork. UCB is only slightly harder out-of-state than in-state (25% admit in-state and 21% out-of state). According to a friend that goes there, residency does not play as big of a factor when it comes to the most competitive majors. </p>
<p>And also on a sidenote, because of the budget crisis, the UCs are starting to lean towards out-of-state applicants in the recent years because of the extra tuition they have to pay.</p>
<p>I don't think the admitted % numbers are directly comparable for in-state and out-of state simply because so many more people apply from in-state. Think about it, if you live in California, it is more likely that you will want to end up at a UC and the tuition is so much cheaper that you might as well just click the box for Berkeley on your app. On the other hand, out-of staters who apply to Berkeley have to be much more realistic because of the distance from home and the $30,000+ a year they'll be spending, so the out-of state applicant pool is generally more self-selective.</p>
<p>Also, I think the total undergrad student population at Berkeley is like 2% out-of state, meaning students from California are 49 times more represented at Berkeley than applicants from all 49 other states and internationals. I think it would have to be significantly more selective, which isn't to say it's quite at the level of HYPS, but still, at about the level of some elite privates.</p>
<p>Moco86 is right :D</p>
<p>The actual ratio is 10% out-of-state.</p>
<p>yeah..they actually read every application twice, thats what the dean of admissions told us at Cal Day. They also rejected about 10,000 4.0+'s this year</p>
<p>international : 3% admit rate
source : princetonreview.com</p>
<p>Pshhh, I've been starting to think that out-of-state admissions is nearly impossible. I know an alarming number of Stanford acceptees who were rejected by Cal. Even the local Harvard acceptee got rejected. Who the heck did they admit this year, anyway?</p>
<p>i got accepted with barely a 1300, woohoo</p>
<p>Looking at their forums, if you live in California, you're pretty much in. Any open spaces will be reserved for out-of-staters, whom they really hate. I think my chances are better at Cambridge.</p>
<p>My bad, it's more like 7% for fraction of students who are out-of staters.</p>
<p>dude, looking back, I really don't know how the heck I got in. somehow I don't think it is quite an accomplishment.</p>
<p>its a huge accomplishment
actually
for instaters alot of extremely qualified ppl get rejected
you have something that they wanted</p>
<p>Berkeley is a reach school for in-staters because they get so many similar looking applications. For out of staters, it's a huge accomplishment to be admitted. You could probably get into an upper Ivy if you're out of state and Berkeley accepts you.</p>