UC compare to UVA

Applying to College
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<p>hi all, I am a rising senior in Virginia, and my only colleges in mind are UVA and UNC, but I was looking some of the colleges in California, and they look like they have good medical school(hope to become cardiologist one day). </p>

<p>So i guess my question is, how selective is UCLA and UC at San franscisco compared to UVA? Also are the UC's very good with financial aid? cause if I do go there i was hoping not to pay for college and use all the extra money for going back to VA and forth and food and books(my parents make about 40,000 and my brother is attending UVA)</p>

<p>And also, would UCLA be on the same level as UVA prestige wise?</p>

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<p>in terms of prestiage, UC's are more well-known. in terms of financial aid, because you are out of state, you will pay more. it depends on which UC's, but UCs like Berkeley and LA are more selective</p>

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<p>uc san francisco is a graduate medical school, so you cannot enroll in ucsf as an undergraduate. but i recommend going to uc's just because of the diverse environement that you will be exposed to and that will train you to become a better doctor and have a greater understanding and appreciation of america's diversity</p>

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<p>so basically in terms of prestige, selectivity, and "rank" UCs except for UCR, UCSB, UCM, and UCSC > UVA</p>

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<p>UCLA, UCB and UCSD will be tougher to get into for OOS applicants (out of state) and financial aid may also not be so generous.
If your stats are really good, consider applying for the BacMed program at USC. USC has very generous aid and does not give preference to CA students.</p>

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<p>cool thanks for all the help</p>

<p>I like the big scale of UCLA but I do not know whether all the people will be as intelligent and "top of the line" like at UVA(my bro and from personal experience told me how everyone is at the same level as you intelligent wise)</p>

<p>is UCLA a very selective school in California?</p>

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<p>ucla and uva are both great colleges. i dont think its possible to determine if uva kids are smarter/dumber than ucla kids.</p>

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<p>thanks lol, yea i just dont want to be in a school with dumb kids who have no future in mind</p>

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<p>Believe me, both UCLA and Berkeley proved to be extremely selective in the last round of applications. With around 58000 applicants admission rates were dropped to 22% at UCLA last year.</p>

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<p>You will most certainly not find kids like that at UCLA.</p>

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and have a greater understanding and appreciation of america's diversity

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<p>Randomly putting people from ten different cultures into the same school, does not a multicultural environment make -- especially if those cultures keep to themselves.</p>

<p>Not so much as a college-specific observation as more of the fact that America's diversity is worthless if the barriers to exchange remain high.</p>

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<p>I'm not too sure about that. It may be more location specific than you think in terms of prestige.</p>

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but I was looking some of the colleges in California, and they look like they have good medical school(hope to become cardiologist one day).

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<p>Going to school in California will not give you an advantage in applying to California public medical schools unless you have state residency there. I heard state residency for California can get pretty tricky, and trust me, it is extremely difficult to get into one of those schools even if you are instate.</p>

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<p>I would choose UVA. It'll probably be cheaper for you, it'll be closer to home, and the prestige difference between UVA and UCLA + Berkeley is marginal if any.</p>

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<p>I agree with godnick. A lot of the previous posters must be from the west coast. I would put UCB ahead of UVA, but not UCLA. All good schools including UNC. There are kids here in NC that pick UVA over UNC which I don't think makes a lot of sense from a financial standpoint. UVA is preppier though and not loaded up with as many in-staters.</p>

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<p>Any reputational advantage Berkeley has over U.Va. would be based on its graduate programs. U.Va. for a Virginia resident may be the best bargain in American higher education. I graduated from HS in Northern Virginia and didn't want to just go to a "state college" so I wound up at Wake Forest. I love my alma mater, but I had no idea as a teenager that U.Va.'s reputation was a near-Ivy League level. Can U.Va. help you get on track to be a cardiologist? No question about it. Would any of the UCs position you any better to pursue that goal? I can't imagine that would be the case.</p>

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<p>dude UCLA is far superior to Virginia in every way unless you enjoy dressing preppily and being pretentious.</p>

<p>if you enjoy having a good time, going to the beach in february, meeting attractive girls/guys, and getting a top-notch education, go to UCLA.</p>

<p>if you are obsessed with money and status and like to feel important, go to Virginia. you won't be disappointed!</p>

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<p>I have stated many times this board is very Pro-UC/Pro-Cal. UCLA is far superior to UVA in every way? Hmm right.</p>

<p>I forgot that UVA was full of ugly people and delivered a poor education. </p>

<p>My friends at UVa who rejected Ivy Leagues sure were obsessed with status and prestige.</p>

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<p>"I love my alma mater, but I had no idea as a teenager that U.Va.'s reputation was a near-Ivy League level."</p>

<p>none of my friends in korea, china, japan, and europe have ever heard of UVA but they all know UCLA/Cal. i didnt even know about it till i was a late jr in high school. honestly uva's reputation is nowhere close to that of an ivy league school</p>

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<p>This shouldn't be a problem if you're planning to attend grad and medical school somewhere in the US.</p>

<p>If you're a cardiologist, your patients and employers aren't going to care which undergrad institution you attended -- your grad school will care about that. :)</p>