Thank you all. I talked to my son, he would like to continue since it is fun for him. We’ll re-evaluate next year (junior year when he will have busier schedule). I told him grade is only one aspect and there are many ways to be success, as long as he loves what he is doing and happy, that matters the most.
We’ll chat with the school counselor about Credit/Non credit but I don’t think they have that choice.
Bests,
Right, but the UC’s two methods of guaranteeing admission, statewide and ELC, are based only on two things, GPA and rigor, from which an index (pure formula) or comparison to your high school class, again a numbers-based comparison. I know you know this, what part of statewide or ELC, which is without a doubt the most straightforward to get in to a UC, is holistic? I think Gumbymom’s point of comprehensive is more accurate than holistic.
Guaranteed admission is to a campus, invariably Merced. OP did not ask about Merced, and very very few users on this site are interested in Merced. Perhaps less focusing on the minutiae would be more beneficial to the OP.
I don’t think UC’s release how many students qualify for ELC or statewide but most of them do not attend Merced, which I think accepted about 2500 last year, compared to the 50K (maybe more) or so students who are guaranteed via the two paths. My point is that the easiest way to get in to a UC is via the guarantees which are based on an index and a formula, which are not holistic.
For the OP, if band lowers the GPA relative to their HS peers, they should probably drop it. If the peers are taking a course that does not weight (say journalism or another college-prep class), then you’re probably ok keeping it. Many students that get into the UCs also take a sport, which means they don’t take a seventh period class, so one less opportunity to take a honors or AP.
That is the easiest way to get into UC Merced. However, students who qualify for that often prefer some other UC for which admission is competitive and holistic, not assured or based on a formula.
If you are referring to ELC qualification, it is not based on current class rank. It is based on the UC-recalculated GPA versus a benchmark GPA set by a recent previous class.
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And most ELC or state eligible students are at those other UC campuses because they have to be assigned there, because Merced has the smallest enrollment at 2500, so you just can’t just put all 50K of the applicants there. Sure, they could only have guaranteed acceptances to Riverside or Irvine. I could see this Merced argument if it was as large as say San Diego at 11K, but it’s not.
Merced does not overflow because most of the ELC-eligible students choose other schools (UC or otherwise). There is no guaranteed admission to any specific UC campus; ELC only says that a student will be admitted somewhere in the UC system where there is space available. In practice, this means that ELC students shut out of their UC application lists get admission offers from Merced.
In addition to that, #10 and #11
Here we are discussing one extra regular course. Makes me wonder what happens to students who have a lot of dual enrollment credits from Community College (in some cases upwards of 36 credits)?
Would their weighted capped gpa be lowered even more? Are they considered in a separate bucket?
My son goes to a school with a dual enrollment program where they can earn their associates degree concurrently with their high school diploma. Their dual enrollment classes get the honors bump, but they are usually counted as one grade for the entire year. That means he is more impacted by non-honors classes in his transcript. Our school also required a full schedule every year which impacts them as well.
Again, my daughter was a competitive dancer and took varsity dance for 4 years. It was common to take 3 years as pass/fail so as not to impact gpa and class rank negatively.
Dual Enrollment courses are always counted as UC Honors courses.
Actually, they aren’t. For California residents, this handy website will tell you if your community college’s classes are indeed considered “UC Honors.”
Our community colleges don’t have a list on that link. It guides an applicant to check ASSIST.
Which CA community colleges aren’t listed? I did a random search of places with a wide geographical variation, like Diablo Valley College, Santa Monica College and Sierra College. They are all there on that list. It isn’t just for CA high schools.
The Community colleges will show up on the Institution Search function for the UCOP A-G course list website but if you click on the courses this is what pops up:
There is no updated course list for this year. Please refer to the 2013-2014 A-G course list as a reference.
Note: the 2013-2014 course list does not include all of the college’s current course offerings that may fulfill the A-G subject requirements for UC/CSU freshman admission. You should also refer to the ASSIST website to determine the transferability of this community college’s courses. UC-transferable college courses of 3 semester/4 quarter units which clearly fall within A-G subject disciplines may be used to meet A-G subject requirements; some non-transferable courses of 3 semester/4 quarter units in English and Math only are also acceptable. Additional information on meeting A-G requirements with college courses is available on the UC Admissions website.
As stated by @lkg4answers the student needs to check Assist.org for UC/CSU Transferable courses as noted above.
My daughter has 20 units of CC, not counting the two she will take in the Fall. I added them to the Rogers Hub calculation and it dropped it a tiny bit, but not much. If you receive B’s it may be a bigger drop.
My kid has 42 units through the end of junior year. It has an impact, but hopefully there’s some context given to that sort of situation.
Wow! That’s a lot! 18 more and he/she can go in as a transfer! The way I see it, with my daughter’s APs included, she’ll have almost 40 units when she graduates. If she doesn’t get in, she can apply as a transfer in one year. She’ll only be 18. But, I really want her to have four university years. We’ll see…
My son will have his associates degree concurrent with his high school diploma, but they’re still considered first time freshmen for admissions.