UC Irvine vs. UC Davis

<p>In your opinion, which school is better for a bio major? Why?</p>

<p>Which has a better atmosphere?
Better weather?
Harder to get into?
Which is more under/over rated? Or are they at the level which people think they are?
How's the social life at the campuses?
Can you give some generalizations (i.e. A has a party atmosphere and B is more intellectual - study lots)?</p>

<p>What can you tell about the two schools?
Location? Anything? </p>

<p>Thank you in advance. Appreciate your comments =).</p>

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<p>Cheers!</p>

<p>I would go to Davis. The schools are similar, but Davis is more of a college town. You can do day trips to SF, Berkeley and even Lake Tahoe. Irvine is more of a commuter school.</p>

<p>i would take UC Irvine. i know several friends there who actually passed up opportunities to go to schools with way better reputations in order to study bio at UCI (then again, they did get full tuition scholarships there). from what i heard, bio majors at UCI are smart. i think UCI is underrated, but then again, it is rising in the rankings and in reputation. hmm.. for generalizations, UCI is more of a commuter school, it has a lot of asians in the student population, the weather is very nice (south OC), the campus is nice.</p>

<p>but thats just me. i dont know too much about davis so i cant really make a good comparison</p>

<p>I live near Davis, and visited Irvine last summer. Here our my reasons why I am appling to Davis and not Irvine:</p>

<p>Irvine is a commuter school, I've heard that everywhere. So not unless you are a commuter, its probably not the place to go.</p>

<p>It has an extremely high percentage of asians, highest out of all the UC's for sure. That's not to say its a bad thing, it's just not for me.</p>

<p>I actually like the campus at Irvine a lot, all the buildings are situated around this circular grass area with thousands of different trees. The beach is also close by.</p>

<p>Davis has a great campus, but it doesn't seem like it would from driving by on the freeway. It has a big rectangular grass area and a bunch of hudge trees that puts any where you walk in the shade.</p>

<p>I don't know a lot about the majors, but I know they are both good for science. Depending on what your priorities are I'd say they are both good choices.</p>

<p>A vote for Davis. I think it's a better overall college experience. Though I must say, if I were Asian I might well choose Irvine to be in the majority for a change. Davis is harder to get into, isn't a commuter school and gets higher student satisfaction ratings. Don't know about bio at either of these schools, but look at UCSD for great bio majors.</p>

<p>Being in SoCal, Irvine has the better weather, but then, again, Davis is only 90-120 minutes from great ski slopes. Irvine also just built a fabulous, apartment-like dorm setting, complete with pool and spa. We have friends at both schools, and receive fantastic feedback -- the kids "love" either place.</p>

<p>my dad went to davis for his PhD. But that was when i was 7 yrs old. I have some bad memories of racial discrimination/harrassment.</p>

<p>Thanks for the replies! They're helpful =).</p>

<p>What do you guys mean by "commuter school?" Kids drive from home to school (off-campus living) or they've got to commute from school a good distance to get to the city? Or are the classes really far apart?</p>

<p>Commuter school means that a lot of the kids that go to the school live near the campus, so they go home for the weekends. The campus may seem deserted on the weekends, thus leading to a pretty boring social life. You might get lucky and have a whole hall full of people who don't live near by, but the chances of that are slim.</p>

<p>Read this link:</p>

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<p>My vote goes to UCD.</p>

<p>Two words
"Balboa Island"</p>

<p>balboa island?</p>

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<p>I think he is voting fori UCI. Balboa Island is a trendy spot in Orange County.</p>

<p>Trendy, requiring a car (as it does to get anywhere from UCI), and a place that's friendlier to divorced attorneys and trophy wives than it is college students, particularly those without AmEx cards at their disposal.</p>

<p>I've spent time people watching down there when TheMom has been at conferences at UCI.</p>

<p>I can't compare the schools, since I only have experience at one of them. But if you have read any of my past posts, you can tell that I'm a big UCI supporter. I graduated from there in 2000 with a degree in Biological Sciences. While I did not end up going the med school route (I am starting an MBA this fall at the UCLA Anderson School of Management), many of my friends did, and they are all doctors now. The one universal thing I heard from them was that UCI really prepared them well for getting in to and succeeding in medical school. Granted, I was in the Campuswide Honors Program (<a href="http://www.honors.uci.edu%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.honors.uci.edu&lt;/a&gt;), so all of the people I'm talking about were amongst the top students on campus.</p>

<p>This is why they felt that UCI helped them get into medical school:
1. Research Opportunities. Now I'm not saying that other schools don't have research opportunities, but I can say for sure that they do exist in great quantities at UCI. Between the labs at the school of Biological Sciences and those at the College of Medicine across the street from the main campus, undergrads literally have hundreds of labs to choose from. If they want to do research in ANY area of biology, it is available. These research opportunities lead to greater things, namely...</p>

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<li><p>Contact With Professors. Students really get to know their professors, provided that they actually go and talk to them. Most professors will not seek students out (except the really, really smart students), so students have to talk to them after class or go to their office hours. But the majority of the faculty live across the street in the faculty housing, so they are on campus for long hours and are very available to meet after 5:00 pm and even on weekends if they are so inclined. Students get great contact with the professors that they research with, since the undergrads may be in the labs as much as 20 hours a week, often one-on-one with the faculty members and their postdocs. This close faculty contact leads to...</p></li>
<li><p>Great Letters of Recommendation. These are crucial for getting in to top medical schools. If you really develop a close relationship with a professor, they can say great things about you in their letters and actually cite specific examples. Let's say you went to college X and you took a biochemistry class with a professor and got an A. They might agree to write you a letter of rec and all it will say is that you were in their biochemistry class two years ago and earned an A and that you'll be a good doctor. But if you have a professor you had extensive contact with write you a letter, they can talk about how inquisitive you are and how you solved a major problem in the research lab and how you are performing graduate-level research as a freshman and so on. All of my friends that went on to med school had these kinds of letters because they were able to really get to know their faculty.</p></li>
<li><p>MCAT. The way that the bio curriculum is set up is conducive for good performance on the MCAT. Without going into too much detail (I can give a 10 minute talk on this if I had the time), the students get a very broad AND deep education in all areas of biology, which helps them really do well on the Bio section of the MCAT. Some universities have students specializing in one very narrow part of biology (parasitology, for example) starting from the freshman year and they have somewhat limited knowledge of other areas of bio that they have to cram for when they take their MCAT prep courses.</p></li>
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<p>All of my friends said that the first year of medical school wasn't that bad because of their biology education at UCI. Biochemistry is supposedly a killer course in med school, but my friends all breezed through it and were able to devote their time to other demanding courses, such as gross human anatomy.</p>

<p>To answer your specific questions (from the UCI standpoint)...</p>

<p>ATMOSPHERE - What the others have posted above is somewhat true. UCI is a commuter school. However, don't take that too literally. Many students live in apartments off campus, but those apartments are literally across the street so many of those students are around on weekends, they're just not on the actual campus. Many others live at Newport Beach and drive in, but the Newport scene is pretty wild and is definitely part of the UCI social scene. When most people think "commuter", they think of people that live at home with their parents. They are also expanding the new complex that's called Vista Del Campo (<a href="http://www.vistadelcampo.com%5B/url%5D"&gt;www.vistadelcampo.com&lt;/a&gt;) since they have waiting lists a mile long. Tons of students live there and it's awesome.</p>

<p>One thing that is a bit lacking at Irvine is the school spirit factor. I think a big part of that is that UCI is not great at sports so there isn't anything for the campus to rally around. Sure, we won a Nobel Prize in Chemistry this year, but that's not something that the students are going to build a bonfire and paint their faces for. If I was a billionaire, I would donate money to UCI to form a football team. </p>

<p>WEATHER - Irvine's weather is awesome. Hardly ever rains, you can wear shorts and flip-flops for 11 months a year. Right by the beach, so you get nice, clean air.</p>

<p>HARDER TO GET IN TO - Not sure, but the stats I've seen show that UCI and UCD are pretty close. Average GPA and SATs probably differ by percentage points.</p>

<p>OVER/UNDER RATED - I think that UCI is definitely underrated because of the large shadow cast by the Berkeley and Los Angeles campuses. But the students that go there get a great education and if they work hard, they will accomplish what they want to and get that job that they want.</p>

<p>SOCIAL LIFE - Go Greek, join an ethnic club, be part of the student government, or move to Newport.</p>

<p>GENERALIZATION - I would say that UCI is a strong science school located in an upper-middle class city with a lot of Asians. The students study hard and don't have a reputation for hard partying.</p>

<p>I chose Irvine over UC Berkeley, UCLA, UCSD, USC, Brown, and Notre Dame. If I could do it all over again knowing what I know now, I'd still make the same decision.</p>

<p>alicantekid - thanks for a great message, really insightful! i have a couple more questions though.. mind if we switched aim sn's? Please pm me, because i can't message you.</p>

<p>As far as Irvine being a commuter school, its true to some extent, but the friends I have that are NOT commuters at Irvine absolutely love it. They get the college experience and lifestyle. The weather is beautiful and there's tons to do. Plus, bio is HUGE at Irvine.I think it really depends on what exactly you are looking for, but I hope this helps a little.</p>

<p>if you are going to do bio, go to uci. i was student bio there. their program is really really really intense. thats a good thing b/c it prepares you. make sure you really love bio and chem. uci is less social, which is better for studying. you will appreciate that, trust me. uci has warm, sunny weather all year. i think uci's bio program is rated right where it should: pretty high.</p>

<p>dont let anybody fool you into thinking that uci is a fun school. it is not, by any means.</p>

<p>MrTrojanMan-</p>

<p>Whether or not UCI is a "fun school" like you describe, I'm not sure if there is a universal answer. What I can say with certainty is that I had fun there. I'm sorry that you didn't like your experience, and I'm glad you transferred somewhere that you enjoy more.</p>

<p>that is a common argument among uci students defending their school: different degrees of "fun". i mean fun as in a normal college life, like living away from home. some uci kids say they have fun, i dont know how. and what kind of fun? oc gets old real fast. i tried lots of ways of having fun, even moving to newport.</p>

<p>back on topic: if you really want to do bio, go to uci. i stongly recommend.</p>