<p>I saw your thread over in the UCLA forum, that is also one of my concerns, you pretty much have to get at least one A and one B in econ 11 and 101 to be able to declare the major. Plus some people recommended to take basic Micro economics at UCLA again, because it prepares you for econ 11 and 101.</p>
<p>lol, after so much worrying/anxiety over transfer decisions, it seems it's only the beginning... :o</p>
<p>hehe, that's exactly what I thought once I found out I got into biz econ. I was somewhat relaxed until May 1, because I kind of thought I'd only get into Berkeley. Then May 2 I got also into UCLA and the "problems" started...</p>
<p>anyone still deciding between UCLA and UCB?</p>
<p>Go to Berkeley! :)</p>
<p>I'm going to a Berkeley reception down here in San Diego next weekend, so I'll see how it goes... it'll probably be even harder to say "no" to Berkeley after talking to alumni and current students...</p>
<p>Bumpin this thread for this years class. I'm in the same position and want to know everyone's input</p>
<p>I was just reading through this old thread again, and I can try and help if there are any specific questions about UCLA or Biz Econ in general.</p>
<p>HAHHAH!! i found it funny.. somebody said the Accounting part is easier than the Econ part... well i don't know if it's for other school but definitely NOT UCLA! a lot of bizecon students got their GPA lowered by the required accounting class!</p>
<p>and also, i don't think the higher average salary in LA bizecon than Berkeley's econ is solely due to the fact that there are more big business in LA area. Because I know that the average salary in Big 4 is actually HIGHER in bay area than in LA.
So i'm pretty sure it somehow related to the quality of the program as well.</p>
<p>So what did you all decide on from last year?</p>
<p>Also, what's the best day to visit UCLA to get a true feel of the campus?</p>
<p>I was laughing too. Taking my second (out of 4) upper division accounting class and I agree, it's definitely NOT easier than econ. I've done really well in all my econ classes, but the accounting classes require more work and the students seem to be more focused and that makes it bit harder. It's still more than doable though, don't get me wrong.</p>
<p>Looking back now, I don't agree with the whole cut-throat thing and that it's super hard to get a 3.5 in order to get into biz econ. I know a lot of transfers that are also biz econ students, and they're all doing really well, seems like all of us transfers are having above average grades. So whoever got into UCLA biz econ as a transfer shouldn't be too worried.</p>
<p>About salaries: I don't think big 4 firms pay according to the quality of an undergraduate program, but I second the fact that those firms pay more in the bay area in general.</p>
<p>It usually just depends on the area, salaries for recent grads are mostly standardized, so if the going rate for PWC in LA is 55K a year, it's the same for almost all grads in the area. </p>
<p>I was pretty concerned with jobs/salaries when I had to decide between Cal and UCLA last year, but I shouldn't have been. My advice is to just ask yourself, where do you want to live for the next two years and work for another couple years. As a UCLA biz econ graduate you'll most likely end up working in Socal, rather than the bay area. So be sure to be okay with that. Recruiters target specific schools for a reason, they're looking for students to work in that particular area.</p>
<p>Another question might be, what industry are you looking for. Both areas have different industries, LA actually doesn't have a whole lot of Fortune 500 companies headquartered there. If you're interested in entertainment, obviously, go for LA. I had several opportunities to get internships in entertainment, they also have lots of positions during the quarters. Big 4 jobs are available in both locations, and with finance jobs, you might have a slight edge in the bay area, but then again, you're also competing against Stanford and Haas Business students.</p>
<p>maxx.. i am UCLA bizecon too btw.</p>
<p>I figured that after reading your postings</p>
<p>So no other current CCers are interested or in this position?</p>
<p>I'm going to ask another question then if you guys don't mind.</p>
<p>So what is the "business" in business econ? Is it finance/accounting stuff? Does ESPN hire a lot of folks from UCLA?</p>
<p>Business Econ, from what I understand, is economics focused on micro, in particular, with some additional accounting classes thrown in.</p>
<p>To complete a biz econ degree at UCLA, you need to take 4 upper division accounting classes, 2 micro, 1 macro class. Then there's two classes specific to biz econ that you need to take, which you can choose from finance, entrepreneurship, investment. Also, econometrics is a requirement.
That's pretty much it. It's NOT a lot of finance.</p>
<p>I'm not sure about ESPN, I don't think they recruit on campus.</p>
<p>Just got notified of the topic revival in my email.</p>
<p>As a UCB transfer finishing my first year in Econ, I definitely would not recommend it if you have any interests towards the business/finance side of things. Because this school has an undergrad business program, and a proud one at that, most classes that are even remotely related to micro-econ or financial-econ are diverted to Haas. The problem with this is that it's a crapshoot to get into the Haas classes because you get no priority. On the other hand, Haas majors that want to take more theoretical and analytical approaches to Econ have a much easier time getting into the Econ department's classes.</p>
<p>I applied to Econ purposely because I'm not so interested in business-side marketing, accounting, etc. But now I wish I applied to Haas, took the Finance concentration, and took Econometrics and other Econ classes as electives. </p>
<p>So if you have any inclination towards micro, investments or finance, I would recommend choosing between Haas and UCLA Bus-Econ. </p>
<p>Couple of misc. comments:</p>
<p>Maxx99's description of the the UCLA program sounds way more appealing to me than Berkeley Econ. Politrix said, "Business Econ, from what I understand, is economics focused on micro." I would say that Berkeley Econ, rather being a broader version of Bus-Econ, is focused on macro and Economic history, with very little micro. In the department there are about 5 micro classes and 20 macro/history classes.</p>
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<p>I actually compared the courses of UCLA BizEcon with USC's Business courses with concentration in Finance and Investment, and I seriously couldn't see any difference between the two. The only differences were the title of the courses, but reading from the description and scanning through the syllabi of each courses, most of USC's Finance classes consist of UCLA's BizEcon Classes plus the Accounting minor curriculum. I'm not sure how it compares with Haas' finance concentration courses, but one thing for sure is that UCLA will prepare you well for Finance career.</p>