UChiago v/s CMU v/s McGill

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<p>*UChicago v/s CMU v/s McGill</p>

<p>I have been accepted at University of Chicago, Carnegie Mellon in their Dietrich College of Humanities & Social Sciences (and also in their Qunatitative Social Science Scholars program) and McGill University in Desautels Faculty of Management and the Faculty of Arts (with scholarship + priority housing) and I cannot decide where to go. </p>

<p>I wish to major in Economics. Obviously I want to go to a University that will provide me with a great education. A place that will get me great internship and job opportunities in the future. And I also want to go somewhere I would have a great overall college experience. I don't want to go to a University that has an over-competitive environment. I wish to get enough time to myself and time to participate in extra-curriculars. I wish to work hard and give it my best, but at the same time I do not wish to be inundated with work all the time and have absolutely no time to do other things.</p>

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<p>Is money an issue? If it’s not, and econ is your focus, UChicago seems to be the clear choice.</p>

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<p>Your criteria pretty much made your choice obvious, so the only thing you need to ask yourself is if you can pay for it…</p>

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<p>McGill all the way!!! Great School!!! So Much Fun!!!</p>

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<p>^obvious ■■■■■ is obvious. get out, kid.</p>

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<p>Seahawks, my first thought was that ninetyfour is simply an enthusiastic McGill supporter, and it is a fine school, though not quite in Chicago’s league. Then I vaguely remembered other “the school that isn’t UChicago is the better choice posts” written in a similar pointed way, so I decided to check out 94’s post history. </p>

<p>Maybe it’s the fact that 94 is pumped about Northwestern, where s/he has an acceptance, and so regards UChicago as the mortal enemy? It is interesting that someone engaged in choosing between Northwestern and JHU is lurking about the UChicago site, looking for sniper opportunities. Whatever the case, the following history is suggestive and does raise the question as to whether 94 is malicious (i.e., a ■■■■■) or simply woefully misinformed about the reality of the UChicago undergraduate experience and feels an altruistic duty to prevent acceptees from making the mistake of attending if they have any other even remotely credible alternatives. 94’s recent CC posting history:</p>

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<p>A) McGill Faculty of Management versus McGill Faculty of Arts -</p>

<p>Both offer a degree in economics. Do you want a BCom in economics or a BA in economics? If the scholarship applies to either, you need to examine program differences.
If not, you should take the Faculty of Arts BA program with the scholarship and preferred housing. Depending on your scholarship amount and any perceived difference you may later learn, you can likely change from one “fac” to the other. However, you should check with McGill about changing “facs”.</p>

<p>B) CMU QSS Scholars versus University of Chicago in economics -</p>

<p>Both CMU and UChicago are studious places. UChicago is the better known of the two especially when talking about economics or business. If you like or think you can handle Chicago’s core, then you should go to UChicago. Further, it sounds like you have the right stuff for UChicago economics. You’ll get all the calculus, linear algebra, stat, regression, game theory and QSS you’ve ever dreamed of and then some at Chicago in economics.</p>

<p>C) McGill w/ scholarship versus Chicago, both in economics-</p>

<p>There is a hugh difference in cost. McGill runs $14,500 + $2000 fees for internationals. Chicago is about $43,000 per year. Depending on your scholarship amount, this is talking about $120,000 to $190,000 in total four-year marginal cost. McGill and Montreal are very international in character. McGill is definitely in the best part of Montreal: Rue Sherbrooke West & McGill College Ave. However, it still draws the largest number of its students from Canada. It’s much more difficult for Americans to gain entry than Canadians. Some people imagine it to be a poor man’s Cornell but it is not. It is just a state u by American standards. If you like it there and think you’ll fit in, go for it, but UChicago is a much safer choice for employment.</p>

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<p>Money is not a issue. I am more concerned about the workload at UChicago because I have heard a lot of negative things about their work load and how hard it is to get a great GPA at UChicago.</p>

<p>Another question that I have is that will it be difficult to go for post-grad in some college in the US after doing undergrad in McGill?</p>

<p>Thanks for your reply rhg3rd, I’m still trying to figure out which faculty in McGill I should go to…(if I chose McGill)</p>

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<p>BCom is like an American BBA or a BS in business administration. You have to take a business core of Accounting, Marketing, Management, Production/Operations, & Finance courses in addition to Economics. Here’s the BCom class profile:
[BCom</a> Class Profile | Desautels - McGill University](<a href=“http://www.mcgill.ca/desautels/bcom/bcom-program-information/classprofile]BCom”>http://www.mcgill.ca/desautels/bcom/bcom-program-information/classprofile)</p>

<p>I think the real reason any American would consider McGill is that it’s cheap. If you’re from NY state or New England, then you probably take McGill over UMass, UConn, or SUNY Binghamton because McGill sounds and is better. You also might take MCGill over BU, because you get a better downtown campus environment and social scene for a lot less money. Indeed, 10 years ago the US dollar was worth $1.50 canadian, and there was an even bigger savings. </p>

<p>Apart from money, McGill fills a niche market among American students who want an international environment or an opportunity to speak French. Further, the drinking age is 18 in Quebec, so that there is more of a European-style student drinking culture in Montreal than in the US. However, winter in Montreal is worse than in Chicago. Montreal gets more snow, which is troublesome for downtown pedestrians, parking and traffic. </p>

<p>In my mind, there are some real questions as to what a McGill degree means for an American. People will think you are originally a Canadian. It is unclear how to compare grades across borders for grad school admission. Obviously, an extremely high GPA at McGill isn’t going to hold you back for grad school in the US. I don’t think that McGill will get you “great internship and job opportunities in the future”, particularly with an economics degree. There is a lot of competition among people with economics degrees, because economics is a very common major. A UChicago degree gives you a competitive advantage anywhere. In Canada, you’ll have an immigration status problem for an internship there with a student visa.</p>

<p>You should read what College Prowl** says about McGill. If money is not the issue, what exactly is your reason for going to McGill? University of Chicago is the clear choice if you are talking about majoring in economics and getting a great education.</p>

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<p>As I said, the reason why I am inclined towards McGill is because I am skeptical about the workload at UChicago. I have heard pretty discouraging things about it and in the end, it isn’t that much the University as your individual performance(gpa/ec’s) at the University that matters. It’s not that I don’t want to work. I am going to give it my best and I wish to do well in academics and work hard, however, I do not want to be stressed with a crazy workload all the time.</p>

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<p>Both are incredibly good schools. You can’t go wrong with either, really, so I don’t know why people seem to be making your preference to go with McGill out to be some sort of “settlement,” because, surely, you can/will get a fantastic education there too. Go with YOUR gut; you won’t get an unbiased answer on these boards.</p>

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<p>The simple answer is that if you have AP credits, you can make UChicago easier. There are 3 quarters to a year and 42 credits required to graduate. A maximum of 6 AP credits are allowed. See [Examination</a> Credit and Transfer Credit - University of Chicago Catalog](<a href=“Examination Credit < University of Chicago Catalog”>Examination Credit < University of Chicago Catalog)</p>

<p>If you have all 6, then you have 36 courses to take in 12 quarters or 3 courses per quarter, which isn’t too bad because you never have to take 4 courses. So if you have 6 courses AP then you can make your workload less than of others for the whole time. However, many students at the University of Chicago are self-demanding and try for a lot more than the minimum. This has a lot to do with the reputation about the workload.</p>

<p>You said: “it isn’t that much the University as your individual performance(gpa/ec’s) at the University that matters” If you believe this, then your not going to fit in at any of the top US Universities. You’re sounding like a backwater u pre-med.</p>

<p>To my knowledge grading in Canada is a joke compared to the US. See [Grading</a> and Grade Point Averages (GPA) | Programs, Courses and University Regulations - McGill University](<a href=“http://www.mcgill.ca/study/2010-2011/university-regulations-and-information/gi_grading_and_grade_point_averages]Grading”>Grading and Grade Point Averages (GPA) | 2010–2011 Programs, Courses and University Regulations - McGill University)</p>

<p>Bonne chance </p>