<p>Why is it everyone first response that when they see UCLA, or Berkeley for that matter, it is regarded as a reach for anyone OSS. Looking at the numbers 33% get accepted through the OOS pool verses a measly 18% for in-state. Now the common argument here is well OOS have much better stats than that of an in-state student but that doesn't make sense. Out of the 16448 people that were accepted last year 40% were OOS or international. It's commonly touted that well they are in the top 25% of SAT/ACT range. Looking at these numbers however that response doesn't make any sense. Yes I'm sure OOS are slightly stronger but with a median range of a 26-32 on the ACT it isn't possible for more than half of those OOS students applying to be 32+. The numbers don't make any sense. Please stop making the first response at the sight of a high-tier UC school be a reach. Something with a 33% and most likely a median ACT of 30-33 does not constitute as a reach for everyone. These statistics are from UCLA. Unless I'm looking at this wrong I don't understand why this is the first response unless people are misinformed</p>
<p>Am I off in my assumption looking for others to weigh in.</p>
<p>Actually, UCLA isn’t really that much of a reach. No one I know of thinks of it as a reach for OOS, unless you really have poor grades. It isn’t as hard to get into as you think. People just assume incorrectly.</p>
<p>It’s because OOS students are more competitive in general. I think a lot of in-state students just apply because they can just check the box when applying for other UC’s, so the admit rate is artificially lower? Idk, that’s my take.</p>
<p>I really havent found anything to refute my statement yet but am looking lol</p>
<p>So, for someone like me: 32 act, 4.00 uw gpa, and 4.19 UC gpa, in state
Would UCLA be a reach? it seems like you have done your research compared to others so i value your opinion much more. Also i am applying as an aerospace engineering major if that may change anything. Thanks for the thread also, really cool!</p>
<p>I am frankly not in a position to give chancing advice for UCLA because what I have posted is almost against everything I have ever read on this site regarding UCLA. Based on what I have found if you have good EC’s, good essays, and a good rec you will have a good chance.</p>
<p>OOS is a reach if you apply for financial aid. The reason why OOS is higher in terms of acceptance is also because UCLA likes the money that they bring, since they have to pay double. Can you pay full freight? GOOD for you. If not, then it’s a reach. It also depends on your major and what college within UCLA you’re applying to. Obviously, someone going for Iranian studies(rofl) will not compete with someone going for biomedical engineering. Basic common sense.</p>
<p>UC’s are need blind so that shouldn’t sway their decision. Do most people on this site chance with the financial end in mind?</p>
<p>Colleges care about money buddy. It’s a business. Especially in the budget crisis that the UC’s are facing…</p>
<p>Need blind is need blind. I do agree that OOS brings in more money, but my question was do CC’ers chance with the financial end in mind?</p>
<p>Look at their endowment. Then look at how many students they have, and how many graduate programs. Many schools say that they are ‘need blind’, but after 2008, you can’t say that they’re need blind. It’s basic common sense. Only schools like Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Stanford and other top endowed schools with large alumni supports and research patents can truly say that they are ‘need-blind’. Honestly, you can’t be that naive. Yes, CC’ers chance with financial end in mind for schools that are not well-endowed (such as UCLA). JHU says that it’s need-aware(how much money can your bring?). I respect them for being honest with their applicants.</p>
<p>Well I don’t even remember there being any inquiry about financial aid on their application?</p>
<p>[‘Need-Blind</a>’ Admissions: Fact or Fiction? - The College Admissions Insider (usnews.com)](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/the-college-admissions-insider/2011/07/18/need-blind-admissions-fact-or-fiction]'Need-Blind”>http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/the-college-admissions-insider/2011/07/18/need-blind-admissions-fact-or-fiction)
This article sums it up nicely. Are you a worthy investment?</p>
<p>Very insightful article</p>
<p>Yeah. I read your other thread, and I’m sure that you will get financial aid at these schools. It’s just that we may never know what happens behind the closed doors, and if these schools are really as ‘need-blind’ as they say they are.</p>
<p>Too bad no admissions officer will come forth and say something like that</p>