<p>So I am a twin. We both have low gpas (our father wouldn't allow us to participate in school very much) mine is a 3.9 SAT: 2030 hers 3:8 SAT:1830, We both applied to UC's and explained about our father and the reason behind our low scores in our essay, though my sister applied international relations and talked about our cultural background and how it will aid her in this endeavor, where as I just wrote about my life and inspirations and applied undeclared. She has received a supplement request from both UC Berk/ UCLA and I have not received either. I am so discouraged, I at least thought we both would probably not get in! Does that mean I am just rejected since they don't even want extra info from me and I am very low on the chance-scale? Is she more likely a candidate cause her major and her interest she expressed? OR could it possibly be that even though I am LOW BORDERLINE they already decided to accept me because my SAT. Honest answers here!</p>
<p>Any info would be helpful!</p>
<p>4 possible outcomes:</p>
<p>Outcome A: You’re accepted already, your sister does well on the supplement and is accepted as well.</p>
<p>Outcome B: You’re accepted already, your sister does poorly on the supplement and is rejected.</p>
<p>Outcome C: You’re rejected already, your sister does well on the supplement and is accepted.</p>
<p>Outcome D: You’re rejected already, your sister does poorly on the supplement and is also rejected.</p>
<p>At this point (end of January), UCLA should have concluded the freshman application review and separated the applications into three piles: accepted, denied, and additional information required. The questionnaires are issued to those applicants where additional information will inform the admission decision.</p>
<p>Yes, I’m aware. I just think that this makes it apparent I probably wasn’t accepted.</p>
<p>More input appreciated!</p>
<p>I know it seems like impossible advice, but you have to try to move on and stop obsessing. There is nothing you can do while you wait for the decision, and it may not be bad news, or it might… none of us can tell you. My D’s friends were twins. They made it known to the schools they applied they came as a package. Both or none. All of the schools to which they applied respected that, except Berkeley which, almost certainly because of bureaucracy missed that memo. The result? one was accepted, the other denied. It was painful for both. Ultimately they stuck to their original plan and went to a school they were both accepted. They are juniors there and are VERY happy.</p>
<p>I am just wondering, I don’t want to get my hopes up. I thought someone would have more input. My basic question is: If you have a low gpa and did not receive the Supplement, are you rejected?</p>
<p>Is that 3.9 your UC gpa? What are your subject test scores? How many AP classes did you take? Did your essays resemble your twins?</p>
<p>Answer these and I will give you my best guess.</p>
<p>FYI - My friend received a supplement…with a 1600 SAT, 3.5 GPA Weighted. I don’t really know how they do this stuff.</p>
<p>Supplement, is just if your stats are low/borderline but they are still interested. 3.92 is my weighted gpa (very low I know) I did not take subject tests as they were not required (Didn’t have the money) My essay did not resemble that we were twins, but wouldn’t it be obvious? Same last name, same birthdate, same school?</p>
<p>I am not asking you to chance me, I know Cal berk. is an extreme reach! But, since my sister got the supplement and our essays reflected our special circumstance, I am just wondering if that means only she has a chance, and I am just rejected? Basically: If you have low stats and did not receive a supplement form, does that mean you are simply rejected?</p>
<p>I read an article a few months back regarding twins and admissions. I didn’t read it too carefully nor can I find it now but it said that colleges have been known to accept both or reject both. It cited a couple of pair of twins at both Berkeley and LA.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t give too much credibility to that but if I were you, I would just stop the guessing games and wait. It causes too much stress to fantasize about whats happening…just help your sister with her supplement and see what happens.</p>
<p>If your sister has good 1st semester 12th year grades and writes a good supplement, she probably has a good chance of acceptance since her stats are fair. I hope you will get accepted as well :)</p>
<p>Your SAT and GPA are higher than your twin’s. there is the possibility that you qualify for admisstions outside the Supplemental Review process… there is also the possiblity that your file hasn’t even been opened yet, and will be this week.</p>
<p>Either way, I don’t think it means anything that your twin received a Supplemental request and you did not.</p>
<p>By the way, seeing your latest post in which you say your two GPA (you 3.9, hers, 3.8) are your UC weighted GPAs,and assuming you’ve calculated these correctly, I will give you my (painfully) honest opinion. (I don’t do chance threads, but we are talking my alma mater so I keep up and watch who was accepted or not from my kids’ friends even through my kids’ eschewed it.) Honestly, notwithstanding the supplement and no matter how spectacular your twin’s essay was, I don’t see that she has any shot at Berkeley. Its a very numbers driven admissions formula (you can find the actual formula on line if you spend some time sifting through the UC web pages), and there is vrey little weight permitted for personal circumstances such as disabilities, first generation, etc. Too small I think to make up that gap. Your numbers are closer, but still a long shot. The fact your sis got the supplement and you didn’t was probably just that she had a different reader who was more likely to go there than your reader. Don’t assume they know you are twins. Quite the opposite. This is a very big, very understaffed admissions dept. and you expect a lot if you think they will figure it out without it being pointed out. Having said all this, I have no magic gifts of foresight and only time will tell for certain and I wish you both luck in this and your college search. Unlike you, I’ve been around long enough to know its all going to turn out well in the end, even if it turns out differently than you expected.</p>
<p>Ya, the only thing is our GPA’s are really poor because my father was against us going to school and studying, he was physically abusive and we had to fight to study, he often forced us not to. (Which we wrote about in our essays)</p>
<p>And your GPAs are “not really poor.” They are excellent. Don’t get caught up in reading posts like “Gee I only have a 4.8, and and 2400, do I have a chance?” This is BS and will make you crazy. You both have a lot to be proud of. UCB and UCLA and just very tough, but with those stats you will have very good options.</p>
<p>My daughter ranks #1 at school. She has 4.8 UC GPA and 2100 on her SAT. She has 3 subject tests at 740, 700 and 710. Someone at her school was admitted to UCLA with ranking #8 and SAT at 1600. She did not need to do a supplement. Another person from another school also got around the same stat like the one at her school. She also got accepted to UCLA without the need to do the supplement. Why did my daughter receive a supplement from UCLA? Her stat is obviously much higher. She did not get one from UC Berkeley. She has already been accepted to UC Irvine and CHP program. I just don’t understand why.</p>
<p>Did she mention any special extracurriculars, talent or medical condition? Typically the supplement goes out to borderline students, but I have seen a case where extraordinary extracurriculars triggered the supplement.</p>
<p>My extras were 10 x times better so I’m confused</p>
<p>HmMmmmm ???</p>