<p>A friend of mine is set on being a doctor and she is torn between the two. She is concerned with which school offers better opportunities to get high grades, research opportunities, professor interaction, etc.</p>
<p>Her goal is to attend either Harvard or Stanford Medical, so that is ideally where she is heading. In terms of those schools as well as medical programs in general, which is the better choice?</p>
<p>If you have links, stats, etc. that would be great too. Thanks!</p>
<p>I believe I read somewhere that UCLA Medical Center is the best hospital this side of the Mississippi. Cal doesnt have a hospital. Does that help any? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Don't UCB and UCSF hve some sort of ties going on?</p>
<p>I'm basically in the same position as your friend, aiming for some top Med Schools four years from now. I chose LA over Cal because of the UCLA Med Center. I know there ARE programs between Cal & UCSF, but...LA has its own hospital network, whereas I imagine that working in programs between two universities could prove to be more complicated. I could be wrong, but that's my two cents.</p>
<p>both schools are equally competitive i would assume. take into consideration that both schools are of high caliber, which means the students are pretty smart and that both are large public schools; thus, it is competitive and will not have admittance rates as high as some smaller private schools. the berkeley stats are around, you just need to find them - its probably in the premed topic of this forum somewhere. you won't find ucla stats (i dont think), however, both schools are generally the same in terms of premed. berkeley has a 60%ish rate. ucla's is most likely around that rate as well. although, as fr0dus mentions, LA does have the upperhand in terms of hospital setting. and, if shes looking for research, i bet ucla has more of it, according to that little piece of propaganda we all received in our acceptance letters. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Wait... What little piece of propaganda?
Can you please elaborate about UCLA having more research? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>they gave us a reprinted article by the washington monthly (september 2005) that ranked UCLA as the 2nd best university for its contributions to the nation. MIT ranked first, cal was 3rd, cornell 4th, stanford, upenn, texas a&m, etc.</p>
<p>quote "Similarly, UCLA, which finished second in our overall rankings, excelled in research and came in first in our social mobility rating because of its astoundingly high successful graduation rate given its large numbers of lower-income students"</p>
<p>the quote is bolded because that particular sentence was bolded, out of all the other sent in the article. as well as the sentence that stated "UCLA finished second in our overall ranking"</p>
<p>haha, so that was that little piece of propaganda. although, i guess it is true considering the rankings were done by a third party. but those sentences were bolded on purpose...:rolleyes:</p>
<p>But the rankings have Berkeley at #3. So that still doesn't pose much of a difference.
It comes down to which enviorment will make ya happy. If you're happy, you'll be motivated to excell. For some it's UCB, for others it's UCLA. If your GPA takes a nose dive, all the research accolade you're going to get will go down with it (unless you help find the cure for cancer or aids :) )</p>
<p>well, this deviates from the OP's original question, but i will argue that berkeley is probably #3 because of (i would assume) graduate research, whereas ucla offers many undergraduate research opportunities. so actually, there is a difference, in terms of undergraduate experience/education. on the other hand, these rankings, as most rankings are, are moot. but in relation to the OP's original question, its still hard to say which school is better for premed. as tony mentions, it probably depends on which environment you'd prefer.</p>
<p>just go by whichever environment/ atmosphere you like better and I'm sure you'll excel in your studies.</p>
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well, this deviates from the OP's original question, but i will argue that berkeley is probably #3 because of (i would assume) graduate research, whereas ucla offers many undergraduate research opportunities. so actually, there is a difference, in terms of undergraduate experience/education.
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<p>And what do you base this on, tuke?</p>