UCLA vs. IUB

<p>IU-Kelly's isn't a slouch, I think they only direct admit like 65 annually, UCLA just hold more prestige. I'm instate, at Indiana but, and I don't think paying the out of state tutition to attend UCLA would be worth it for me and vice versa.</p>

<p>o ic mssales did u apply to indiana? i kno oos for indiana is costly and im worrying about tat, do u know if IU does preferential packaging? like giving aid to students with high stats or students they want?</p>

<p>Yes, I've applied, and know I don't know the procedure for out of state students, because I'm instate? They do merit based awards obviously, and I've never heard of preferential financial aid.</p>

<p>damn, well if i got a scholarship and they increased it by 1000, could tat POSSIBLY indicate they want me and therefore give me a fin. aid package that meets my need or close to it? I REALLY REALLY want to go to indiana, its my dream school!! man if they only knew how much i wanted to go....</p>

<p>go to ucla..indiana is a joke...kids in my high school in the lowest decile of the class got in there..as long as u breathe you get into that school</p>

<p>They place well in Investment Banking for a state school though, and their business school is very good, thats the reason I'm transferring. It really is a hidden gem for IB and business overall.</p>

<p>well i might not go now.. their aid they give me is prety bad no grants.... only mi scholarship, loans and work study. who da hell gets the grants then onli in state students?</p>

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<p>Yeah but these people who ended up stumbling into indiana with such poor stats will not graduate with honors. They will not be included in the top 10% of the business students who will end up getting recruited. They will most likely end up as mediocre students.</p>

<p>Performance and your involvement in college is everything.</p>

<p>In my opinion, prestige in general is overrated. People hire a person, not a degree. A person who is outgoing and intelligent will succeed anywhere regardless of the school he goes to. You just got to learn to have fun in college and work hard regardless of the school you to go. With the exception of HYPSM and Wharton, no other schools are worth choosing over just because of the prestige factor. Going to UCLA just because you think it's more prestigious is, IMO, a very bad idea.</p>

<p>You know I really hate it when people who have been accepted to an Ivy league or other such supposedly "prestige" college come in and bash schools that they know absolutely nothing about.</p>

<p>Does this person know anything about Indiana's business school? Of course not--because if he did he would know that it ranks 11th in the country per USNW, (ahead of Cornell which is tied for 12th). He would know that it has 6 business disciplines (finance, marketing, general management, entrepreneurship, quantitative analysis, and accounting) all ranked in the top 12 nationwide. He would know that Indiana's business school was ranked by Princeton Review at 99/100 for faculty knowledge and 99/100 for faculty accessibility--the highest business program ranking in the country in these areas. He would know that Proctor and Gamble ranked Indiana's business school as having the best consumer products program in the country. He would know that it ranked in the top 20 business programs in the world per Business Week, Fortune, Forbes, and the Financial Times of London. He would know that it has been ranked by Business Week magazine as being one of the top 5 programs for marketing (MBA level) for 7 straight years. He would know that it places the second greatest number of investment banking candidates nationwide each year (right after NYU--which appears to have a slight locational advantage--since it's about 10 blocks from Wall Street).</p>

<p>I graduated from the UCLA MBA program--but unlike certain individuals, I'll give Indiana its due. It's a great undergraduate business program--and if it's a bit easier to get into than some other places, then all that means is that a lot of people aren't doing their homework on searching out the best schools for business--or are going for the "prestige" factor, rather than going for the best education.</p>

<p>I know it's a good school, thats why I'm transferring in the fall, I figure if I go there and well, I'll a legitmate shot at getting an analyst position, if not with a top firm, that atleast a firm like Wells Fargo, or the likes.</p>

<p>Calcruzer, how was your son's trip to Indiana? What were his impressions of the place?</p>

<p>Is there a large amount of Kelley graduates working in the south bay?</p>

<p>heh i live in the south bay and the only time i saw a kelley mba was when i was browsing the phone book and i saw a guy i tink a cpa who got his mba at IU, i was like whoa! heh i wouldnt know bout jobs in companies though cuz im jsut a high school student. :) but im sure those who want to be on west coast get jobs</p>

<p>dstark,
My son enjoyed Indiana. He's got a different views of life in the midwest now that he's visited. A few things stood out--one was how friendly everyone was, another was how little there was to do in Lafayette, and the last was how large the campus was at Bloomington. </p>

<p>The campus size scares him at little at Bloomington, but as he told me, he really liked the professors and students there. He's estimating that he's about 50% to 60% sure he'll go to Indiana Univ, and that this will go up to about 90% if his petition for direct admit status is accepted. </p>

<p>We're still scheduled to visit Fordham, NYU (a real stretch), and Bentley in early April. So, I'm hoping he'll keep is options open and consider all the schools--but I kind of agree with him that Indiana appears (for him) to be the best choice school.</p>

<p>Dcho711, congratulations on getting into UCLA</p>

<p>Forgot to mention Indiana grads in the south bay. There's actually quite a few. </p>

<p>The former controller at Xilinx was an Indiana grad, as was a partner from E&Y. Both of these people recruited students from Indiana into their company as a result. There were one or two at Symantec, and the same at Brocade. When I worked with in USF&G Insurance in Baltimore (St. Paul Travelers owns them now) they recruited at both Indiana and Purdue. But I really can't say how many there are overall in either the SF/San Jose bay area or in Baltimore, since obviously I don't talk to everyone and people don't often mention where they went to school in casual conversation.</p>

<p>Oh, and I suppose I should mention John Chambers--who is an Indiana MBA grad, and is the CEO of Cisco Systems located here in San Jose. Cisco is the company with the 2nd largest market capitalization in the world. (I think General Electric is 1st.)</p>