UCONN or Penn State?

<p>I've already been accepted at UConn and since I'm instate and have already received some aid, the most I'll pay is 12,000 each year. They won't tell me if I'll receive anymore scholarships or financial aid until March.</p>

<p>UConn's a great school but I've also been thinking about Penn State University Park. The fact that its out of state is becoming increasingly appealing and I know its a great school. But I wonder if the aid will be even close to what I received at UConn since I'm out of state.</p>

<p>Should I even apply to Penn State? Which school do you think is the most fun, has the best undergraduate focus, best food, best dorms, and has the best programs in my major (Biology or Psychology)? Any other information would be appreciated too.</p>

<p>penn state - uconn is like high school all over again if you're from ct.</p>

<p>Penn State unless you are a huge basketball fan.</p>

<p>Penn State</p>

<p>Life is funny...one of my kids got into both schools, but was in-state for Penn State and OSS at UCONN. He really wanted to go to UCONN (felt comfortable, liked the campus, and it offered programs like Pharmacy that PSU didn't offer -- I'm an alum). Unfortunately, UCONN didn't offer any money and the OSS cost just wasn't warranted. That kid ended up choosing a third school that offered a fantastic financial aid package. </p>

<p>You can have a great time and get a good education at both schools. Which one offers the best program in your intended major or areas of interest? Do you hope to go to grad school, which might be harder if you spend more on undergrad? </p>

<p>I have another kid at Penn State, who has found that the school offers a lot of opportunities. If everything else is equal, I'd probably suggest Penn State for the big-10 college experience and alumni network. State College is a fun college town (as opposed to Storrs' very limited offerings). Hopefully you like football more than basketball.</p>

<p>^I'm a soccer fan so either one doesn't matter to me.</p>

<p>Kcmdonahue, you completely read my mind. When my sister asked me why I wouldn't want to go to UConn, I told her that I didn't want to go to high school all over again. Since there's no way my best friends and I can go to school together, I may as well go somewhere that I don't know anyone and can have a completely new start, you know?</p>

<p>One problem with Penn State though. What are the chances they'll give me really good aid, financial or merit, though the latter is far less likely. In a financial aid calculator, my EFC is approximately, 12,000.</p>

<p>"You can have a great time and get a good education at both schools. Which one offers the best program in your intended major or areas of interest? Do you hope to go to grad school, which might be harder if you spend more on undergrad?"</p>

<p>I'll definitely compare the strength of the two colleges in my major. Thanks for the suggestion!</p>

<p>Penn State is very stingy with financial aid, unless you're in the Honors College.</p>

<p>Penn State UP is stingy with financial aid, but I would definitely say go there over UConn.</p>

<p>A major purpose for State schools to accept OOS students is to get more money from them, not giving them aid. </p>

<p>With Penn State OOS tuition alone at $25K, your COA will probably end up at least 3X higher than UCONN. They are arguably academically equivalent and both have strong collegiate sports teams. UCONN has made huge investments in infrastructure in the past few years, and it would be hard to get more bang for the buck. </p>

<p>Hopefully you applied to enough private schools that may provide you with real alternatives to UCONN and still offer good aid. Slightly more selective school like BC, Vanderbilt or USC that give out of lot of aid may be better options. Going to a public school OOS is hardly ever worth it.</p>

<p>"They are arguably academically equivalent and both have strong collegiate sports teams."</p>

<p>I agree that they both have good athletics, but Penn State University Park has a higher ranking and has stronger academics.</p>

<p>save your money... go to uconn</p>

<p>Omniscient, you obviously picked the wrong name.</p>

<p>Penn States fine but if ur in state for UConn i say do it. It's a great school!!</p>

<p>jec... not really, but that's ok.... you see, my quote above is what's called an opinion... Part of growing up is learning to appreciate other's opinions... when you make personal attacks on message boards it doesn't look good... my friendly advice... don't do that.</p>

<p>I agree with most of the replies in support of Penn State and with the comments about the difficulties of getting much aid from Penn State. However, one consideration is where you plan to live after graduation. If you plan to return to Connecticut, then U Conn is a very legitimate choice and would afford you more local networking opportunities. But for the pure college experience, I think that State College is a tremendous amount of fun and PSU graduates tend to do very well in many industries and locales.</p>

<p>"jec... not really, but that's ok.... you see, my quote above is what's called an opinion... Part of growing up is learning to appreciate other's opinions... when you make personal attacks on message boards it doesn't look good... my friendly advice... don't do that."</p>

<p>Part of also growing up is learning to be honest with yourself, and as a graduate of UConn you should know that Penn State UP is a better school. I obviouslyv haven't harmed your ego, as it would take quite a large one to gie yourself the name omniscient1(even in jest). I had understood what you had said above to be an opinion because it was wrong, which is why I found humor in your name. It was only a small laugh at your expense. You may want to loosen up a little, as being able to laugh at yourself is part of growing up as well. Thanks for the advice, though.</p>

<p>I also agree with what Hawkette said. She, as usual, put it really well and was right on point.</p>

<p>From The Princeton Review</p>

<p>University Of Connecticut</p>

<p>Academics:
"The hardy students of University of Connecticut recognize that a UConn education “is based on a solid foundation of research and academics” and a pedagogical approach that “promotes learning in and out of the classroom,” although that’s not to say that there’s not a contingency that are “all about partying, having a good time, and doing the least amount of studying possible.” UConn is large enough to offer “a wide range of great majors,” including programs at the “fantastic School of Business,” the “well-known Neag School of Education,” and “a solid engineering school with a unique biomedical engineering major.” In most areas, UConn “networks to provide students [with] millions of opportunities for students to expand in academics, self, and even careers,” including “great internships.” The school “does a great job of publicizing these opportunities, as well. We are a big icon of the state, and we keep our prestige.” Thanks to the “UConn 2000” and “UConn Twenty-first Century” initiatives, the campus “is improving drastically with a $2.8-billion construction program designated to refurbishing (and adding onto) nearly every building on campus.” As is the case at many large state schools, “The success of a UConn student’s education is really a matter of personal responsibility. Introductory classes tend to be large and very impersonal, so it is up to the individual to do well.” Bureaucratic tasks such as registration “can be a real pain,”and “the class enrollment process is very confusing and difficult to use,” but overall, students speak warmly of their interactions with administrators. “While usually you have to go through a middleman to get to the administration, it is possible to voice your concerns,” sums up a satisfied student."</p>

<p>Student Body:
"Students report that the typical UConn undergraduate “is a Connecticut resident”—but after that, “it is so hard to generalize a student population of nearly 15,000.” Sure, “A lot of students are very similar in appearance” because “They are from in-state, and a lot of the same trends are prevalent. But there are plenty of students who do not follow this stereotype, and everyone fits in fine.” Many feel that UConn is “a fantastic representation of the Northeast in all respects,” especially the “actively involved, down-to-earth, [and] pretty friendly” student body. The party animal is a vanishing breed here (though the speed at which he or she is vanishing is open to debate); one student explains, “UConn has had its reputation as a drinking school for many years. And every year, the number of students who come here specifically to party and drink declines.”</p>

<p>Campus Life:
"UConn is located in Storrs, which “is pretty much in the middle of nowhere.” It seems especially so to students without cars, of whom there are quite a few (those with wheels can take advantage of Hartford and, occasionally, Boston). Some students feel this predicament “forces us to go out and party simply because there is nothing better to do.” Others point out that “people go out a lot, yeah, and there’s often alcohol involved, but there are many interesting and fun things to do here for those who don’t like that kind of stuff. For instance, there are UConn Late Nights in Student Union at which students can just hang out, meet new people, play games, and have fun. There are also interesting lectures given by guest speakers at the Dodd Research Center, and movie nights and concerts. Since I’ve been here I’ve seen Dave Chappelle, Kanye West, NAS, Busta Rhymes, Lewis Black, and more perform.” Those eager to join clubs and organizations will also find many to accommodate them here. And then there are the intercollegiate sports. “Basketball and football games are always a blast!” undergraduates assure us (the men’s and women’s hoops squads are both perennial national contenders).</p>

<p>Pennsylvania State University - University Park</p>

<p>Academics:
"At Penn State “You can do anything you want” academically because with “over 160 majors” to choose from, “There are unlimited opportunities” for every undergraduate. Such vast resources are typical of a sprawling public flagship university, but it’s the personal touches that leave students “pretty impressed with how such a large school can run like a small one.” For example, “Professors do a lot to facilitate personal interactions.” They are “really easy to talk to both in and out of class, and they’re always accessible.” Unfortunately, it’s not always a professor students end up with: “They do use a lot of teaching assistants, which can get frustrating.” Still, professors are “thought-provoking” and “You can tell that a lot of them really do want to be teaching.” If you can manage to get into it, the Schreyer Honors College’s “rigorous” curriculum presents “tremendous opportunities.” In addition to more challenging courses, it “offers incredible amounts of money for study abroad, internships, and faculty co-ops,” and its students get perks like “priority registration for classes.” Administratively, “Penn State is a huge machine . . . run with amazing efficiency.” Credit is given to President Graham Spanier, who is praised for not only “holding office hours” and “responding personally to e-mails,” but also for being “very involved in student life.” Despite having “created Late-Night Penn State and the News Readership Program,” he also finds time to be the “advisor to the magician’s club” and “play the washboard in a bar downtown.” Perhaps the greatest long-term benefit of a Penn State education is “the social networking.” With an alumni association of over 159,000 members and growing, opportunities for success through networking are “well in your favor” at Penn State."</p>

<p>Student Body:
"“There is a bit of everything” on this huge campus in the center of the Keystone State. That’s why some students find it so difficult to describe their peers succinctly. Rather than a “typical” student at Penn State, for some survey respondents it makes more sense to describe the school’s “multitude of groups of ‘atypical’ students: frat boys . . . jocks, internationals, loners, skaters . . . ‘jokers, smokers, midnight tokers’ . . . city kids, rednecks, country bumpkins, and so on.” In this way, “It’s like a large high school, where everyone is in their own group.” So “if you come to Penn State, don’t worry about finding friends because there is someone up here for everyone.” Yet even “Though there are a lot of differences, everyone wears blue and white on their sleeve.” Ultimately, “All Penn State students . . . love this college.”"</p>

<p>Campus Life:
"At a university this size, “you can do anything and everything” in your free time. There are, however, a couple of common threads. First, “PSU football is a religion.” During the fall, “Everyone goes to the football games and tailgates on Saturdays.” Second, is the partying. “People party as hard on the weekends as they study during the week.” “Popular choices” for freshmen and sophomores are “frat or apartment parties,” while “For those over 21, Penn State’s College Avenue has a great range of over 20 bars for students to choose from.” However, “If someone is not a partier, there are plenty of activities and organizations” he or she can devote her time to. For example, “substance-free activities that occur during the weekends at the Student Union (such as movies, video game tournaments, concerts)” are alternatives for those that decline to imbibe. In terms of extracurriculars, the options are practically endless. According to several students, “with over 700 student clubs and organizations, there’s something for everyone” at Penn State, offering “virtually limitless possibilities to carve out your own corner” and “help students get involved, build a resume, and network.”</p>

<p>jec... I'm sure that you're a bright kid, but you look too closely at the rankings. Rankings are only important when applying to grad school, believe me... I work for a top investment firm in Boston, and when I recruit undergraduate students, my peers and I don't focus on where the students went to school. I've taken UMass grads over Tufts or BC grads.. why? We look at other more important factors and how well they interview. I will agree that networking is very important, but when you compare the networking of a UConn and a Penn State, the difference is negligible... unless you go to an Ivy League caliber school, you will not see too much of a difference... take it from me, I'm sure that I have more experience with this stuff than you do. Go to a school where you know you will have fun at over the next four or so years.... believe me, they will be your best. Both Penn State and UConn are great party schools, with great academics... you can not go wrong with either... I'm a husky fan, so I said go to UConn... Do not let strangers on mess. boards guide you to where they think you should go. Visit the schools and talk it over with your parents. That is the best advice anybody on this board with give you.</p>

<p>Also, jec, don't look too much into mess. board names... I know omniscient is a silly name... No one is all knowing... don't be so literal...</p>

<p>"A major purpose for State schools to accept OOS students is to get more money from them, not giving them aid.</p>

<p>With Penn State OOS tuition alone at $25K, your COA will probably end up at least 3X higher than UCONN. They are arguably academically equivalent and both have strong collegiate sports teams. UCONN has made huge investments in infrastructure in the past few years, and it would be hard to get more bang for the buck.</p>

<p>Hopefully you applied to enough private schools that may provide you with real alternatives to UCONN and still offer good aid. Slightly more selective school like BC, Vanderbilt or USC that give out of lot of aid may be better options. Going to a public school OOS is hardly ever worth it."</p>

<p>You and many others offered me a good amount of insight on the cost of attending an OOS flagship. Not one person said there's a good possibility of me getting aid that would make it cost the same as UCONN. If that's the case, I think I'll stay in state. I have applied to 9 private schools though, including BC so I'll have other options when it comes to financial aid.</p>