UCs and Community College

If i have a poor 2.8 high school GPA and i do really well in community college can i redeem myself and still make it into a UC school?

<p>Only if you apply to the UC system, are denied and are offered their transfer agreement.</p>

<p>Even without those (though you still need to apply and be rejected, I think), going to a CCC and transferring into a UC is a lot easier than going to a 'lower' UC or other 4-year institution and transferring.</p>

<p>That's not true. You do not have to be denied. Do well at a CCC and you'll have n excellent chance. If you want a top UC, do the honoes program at your CC and make sure you understand from the start about transfer agreements.</p>

<p>so even with a low gpa i still have a chance w/ ccc</p>

<p>go to google and search for "XXX guaranteed admission" where XXX is the name of a UC school you are considering for more info. The UC campuses have guarantees with some CC's in their area; if you complete a certain sequence of courses with a specified gpa, you are guaranteed admission.</p>

<p>And even without the guarantee, the odds are still decent of getting into most campuses. UC schools only admit students as frosh or juniors, and by the CA master plan first consideration is given to CC xfers. So believe it or not, they will consider you from a CC before they will consider someone from another UC campus.</p>

<p>BTW since you are asking for advice let me add some on that you didn't solicit. You need to understand why you didn't do well in HS and figure out a way to change it. If you hang out with the same friends, have the same study habits, and same attitude to school & learning, then the results in the future are likely to be the same. While CC offers a 2nd chance, and as a community is something we can be proud is available (in most countries, do bad at the college entry exam everyone takes and there's no 2nd chance), the truth is many students at CC's don't go very far. They get tired of school, they are surrounded by other students who don't make school a priority, and so on. </p>

<p>I'm not saying this to discourage you or say you can't do it, just to point out the road you face. According to a government study, "For 1992 high school graduates who entered a community college with bachelor’s degree aspirations or higher, about 27 percent had attained a bachelor’s degree by 2000". So after 8 years only about 1 in 4 had made it, and this stat is after stripping out those who didn't start a CC intending to get a 4-year degree. See <a href="http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2003/2003164.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2003/2003164.pdf&lt;/a> page 33. </p>

<p>Why so few? These days its hard for many people to admit/decide college isn't right for them, so CC's offer that "bridge" from HS into the working world without having to announce out of HS that you've had enough. You take a few classes, take a few less if you go back 2nd semester, get a full-time job and don't have time for studying, your friends from HS who also went to the CC are quitting and putting some pressure on you to join them, whatever. I'm not saying this has to happen to you, there's many people for whom the CC is a stepping-stone to something better, but there's also plenty for whom its the end of the college road.</p>

<p>thanks for ur advice mike, i should really take this as a second chance</p>

<p>I wouldn't be surprised if the UC's close this door eventually. It really locks them into agreements with students who take a lot of transfer space. So either move fast into an agreement or take a year to mature with an Americore type program. You do need to change your habits and the time could be right now. Get your last semester of school's grades up as high as you can. Anything you learn well this year will probably be useful next year.</p>

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<p>a lot of good advice from mikemac and mr B. Finish this year strong so you'll have confidence if you decide to go to the next level.</p>

<p>But, to answer your first question....if you go two years at a cc and earn an AA, your HS grades and test scores will not even be considered for UC as a transfer student. Moreover, some cc honors programs have a 90% placement rate to the big two, B & LA. While you would not likely get into an honors program at first, with great grades you could always petition in.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>thanks guys</p>

<p>its not really complicated...recognize your major...recognize the colleges you want to transfer to...complete the coursework...maintain 3.5+ GPA your in in almost all of the UCs except UCSD, LA or B</p>

<p>They've already started moving away from the guarenteed admission practices. Until recently, there was a pretty unspoken agreement that any qualified applicant (decent gpa, completed lower division classes) would be admitted to the school of their choice <em>within reason</em>. It's gotten much, much more competitive (within the past ~3/4 years) and this is no longer the case. A big faction of kids who got in a few years ago wouldn't be qualified today. </p>

<p>However, it's still not all that hard to transfer. While it may not be guarenteed that you'll get your first choice (because they're really freaking arbitrary sometimes), anyone who committs to their major and to doing well in CC will get in somewhere. Some majors and schools require more work than others, but none are impossible (save for maybe film, but thats a different discussion).</p>

<p>Also, it should be noted that many schools within the CCC system offer honors programs. UC schools have contracts with these honors programs (which vary, depending on the school and their program) and students who are certified for these school-specific programs often have a doubled chance of admission, if not guarenteed officially. </p>

<p>**Oops. Honors has been mentioned. But yeah, generally you just need ~3.25 for CCC honors programs. They're really not too difficult to achieve in and membership has some awesome benefits.</p>

<p>Going to a CC is a great way to eventually make it to a UC. Many of the CCCs DO have agreements with certain UCs that guarentee you admission if you meet the requirements of the programs. And it really can be your second chance.</p>

<p>^^^ *commits </p>

<p>Sorry, that was bugging me.</p>

<p>CC advisors are very keen to see their successful students get accepted to 4 yr colleges. They can tell you real numbers and help you plan your classes so that you don't loose too much time in the switch. Don't wait! Talk to them now so that you get the proper placement in classes next fall if this is the path you choose.</p>