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<p>you really meant, the only people in florida who care about miami are those who want to attend the number ONE ranked school in the state AND those who are in miami. :)</p>
<p>University of Florida</p>
<p>ARWU World:51
ARWU National:38
Forbes: 93
USNWR National University: 53
WM National University:26</p>
<p>University of Miami</p>
<p>ARWU World Top 200
ARWU National Top 100
Forbes: 493
USNWR National University 47
WM National University: 130</p>
<p>Four out of five of these publications rank UF drastically higher than Miami. The one publication (US News) that doesn’t has it behind only by six spots.</p>
<p>Well, don’t ever quote Forbes, even if it supports you. Take a look at how they come up with their rankings if you want a great laugh.</p>
<p>Ryan82, nice try. But, you soooo well know that the only ranking that really matters to the great american public is the USNews ranking. And Miami is the number ONE ranked school in the state, according to the ranking system most popular among parents, high school students and newspaper outlets. Isn’t it?</p>
<p>Another thing, its 47 and 53…its not like it’s 1 and 100. It’s a 6 number difference.</p>
<p>So your argument is that rankings do matter, but only if it supports your position, despite 4 out of 5 college rankings having Miami lower. </p>
<p>That’s convenient.</p>
<p>All I’m trying to say is that if you are arguing that college rankings do matter, you should look at them within the context of every ranking system available.</p>
<p>??? </p>
<h1>1 what is the average GPA for incoming freshmen @ UF, UM and FSU?</h1>
<h1>2 what is the avergae SAT score for incoming freshmen @ UF, UM and FSU?</h1>
<h1>3 what % of applicants are accepted at each of the mentioned schools?</h1>
<p>Answer these questions and find out for yourself who is truly #1.</p>
<p>gator4ever - Not really. Comparing admission stats between state schools and private schools is apples and oranges. Many examples of that in other threads. Average GPA is tough too because A) the state schools get a heavy percentage from Florida high schools which may or may not have some degree of consistency in their grading system, I don’t know. But for sure there is far less consistency in the applications to Miami where students are much more spread out; B) sometimes you cannot tell if they are reporting W or UW GPA.</p>
<p>SAT scores you should be able to compare.</p>
<p>Those who attended UF last year, do u guys remember some article in the alligator about UF screwing up and not sending some stuff related to the rankings and for that being ranked lower in the coming year. Is this related to that story?</p>
<p>Ratings are just that ratings. And congrats to UM for their increase. The facts are: that if a student wants to attend UF and has a gpa of 3.4 and an SAT score of 1800 he can forget it and need not apply.</p>
<p>However this same student would be welcomed to UM with open arms.</p>
<p>Actually, about 30% of students that enrolled at UF have SAT scores of 1800 or less. As far as the GPA, that is hard to say since neither UF not Miami can follow instructions and report an unweighted GPA.</p>
<p>^That’s because it is lower than they want students to believe. For a long time Miami refused to issue CDS reports.</p>
<p>Well, just to be clear, as I said before, UCLA, UVA and a number of others have this same problem about reporting UW GPA. I discovered this when I was trying to figure out the Princeton Review Selectivity Index, which uses GPA as a major part of their formula. I noticed some odd things, so I called them. It turns out they had no clue that they were comparing schools that reported GPA correctly with those that did not. It was stunning.</p>
<p>I peruse the various Common Data Sets and notice that some schools, such as UF, obfuscate the presentation of important data ostensibly to look more accomplished than they actually are. A central purpose of the CDS was to stop the fudging and be clear about data but that does not seem to have worked too well.</p>
<p>To a certain extent I blame US News for this phenomenon.</p>
<p>My opinion,
you’re stupid if you read my letter and come to the opinion that I wanted UF to game the rankings, I’m sorry that your critical thinking skills have been stifled by, in all likelihood too much education, ironically. I want FAIRNESS in admissions. Period. </p>
<p>As for having a bad day, you kidding me? My life is consumed with going to work and taking care of my family. Whether UF slips 5 or so spots in rankings that can be ripped by a stats 101 student at a community college is not even close to a factor in my life. Discrimination in admissions against people who deserve to be rewarded for brains and hard work, but get dinged for more unqualified applicants and using tax money to do so? Well that is a bit more important to me and the social and political ramifications of this are “slightly” more important than a few ranking spots. I’m sure that you have your head shoved so far up your political correct cloud that you’re incapable of even conceptualizing my point of view or the vast and deep sociopolitical ramifications of racial discrimination. After all, your rant is founded in sensationalism (rankings) and mine in reason and a sense of social justice.</p>
<p>Parent noles…show me proof of this obfuscation! Seems to me that the biggest offender of obfuscation is your beloved FSU. I remember last year when they put the average SAT score of their “committed” students front and center on their web page. Their quoted number turned out to be almost 100 points lower than their enrolling freshman. Bravo to their marketing department.</p>
<p>[University</a> of Florida - Admissions](<a href=“http://www.admissions.ufl.edu/ugrad/frprofile.html]University”>Freshman - How To Apply - University of Florida)</p>
<p>this thread is ■■■■■■■■.</p>
<p>The eleven public schools will only continue to drop in ranking as long as the state keeps handicapping higher education.</p>
<p>SB2 - You do realize those charts say the data is for applicants and admits. It doesn’t say it is for matriculated students. Yet it is titled “Freshman Profile”. Seems quite misleading.</p>