UF Student Tasered at Kerry Forum

<p>They will not be disciplined one iota.<br>
Here's some more info on the "victim".</p>

<p><a href="http://alligator.org/articles/2007/09/20/news/campus/pranks.txt%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://alligator.org/articles/2007/09/20/news/campus/pranks.txt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Re dt's free speech comment: "That would be an interesting free speech discussion."</p>

<p>Had the guy let the police strong arm him out of the room as soon as he finished asking his three questions, he would be the darling of the news media right now. It would have made the cops, the meeting organizers, and perhaps even Kerry look horrible. Kid asks a contentious question and immediately people grab him by the arms and drag him away...LOL. We would still be watching the clip a year from now.</p>

<p>In a way, his resistance was a good thing for the police, from a PR perspective.</p>

<p>I seriously doubt that. His intentions were obvious, his track record worse, and disrupting a speech by going beyond your allotted time will not endear him to many people. Such tactics have been done many times to little effect.</p>

<p>You know it amazes how many young kids must never been spanked. It's always amazing to see how surprized their faces appear as they get slammed to the ground mid tantrum.... </p>

<p>Like they don't understand the relationship against acting out wildly and getting smacked? be it by the police or somebody at a party...</p>

<p>Should be one of those basic learning experiences fire burns, water wet, ice cold, act like a jackass get pounded..</p>

<p>I may have missed it, but I didn't see anyone note whether the officers were armed or not. If they were, one of the main concerns in an arrest struggle is the chance that some "freedom-of-speecher", jerk, nutcase, or just generally-unruly-and-unpredictable-person might get hold of their weapon and either shoot them or force them to shoot him. A taser seems like a good choice to make. </p>

<p>In any case, I think this is a very light use of very reasonable force to maintain a little order so that others can enjoy some freedoms. He received fair warning.</p>

<p>I'm glad to see some parents seeing through this idiot kid. He's been made a hero on facebook and what not among college kids. I've never seen so many conspiracy theorists come out of their shells. The amount of kids supporting UFPD are minuscule compared to those supporting Andrew... </p>

<p>If anything bad happens to the officers, I WILL be making the 2 hour drive to Gainesville to protest.</p>

<p>I hope you're not referring to me. I've posted repeatedly that what he did was wrong, rude, obnoxious, etc. </p>

<p>The biggest losers in this were the people who were attending. I'd probably get physically ill watching someone get tasered, but that's me. I certainly don't think I've defended the young man or made a hero out of him. If you think I have, please read my posts from the beginning.</p>

<p>No I just remember reading this a few pages back and being surprised at how many parents were in support of him and not supporting the cops. I was talking specifically about facebook groups.</p>

<p>"I'd probably get physically ill watching someone get tasered, but that's me."</p>

<p>Maybe if he was just standing there, minding his business or simply shouted out once or twice. </p>

<p>But after doing what he did as LONG as he did, I'd be smiling, thinking somebody's mom didn't explain to junior how the real world works....;)</p>

<p>Has the difference in taser settings been discussed yet? Apparently there is a low setting which would be used in a case like the "Don't tase me bro" kid. If the cop holds his finger in the taser gun for a longer period, the taser shock is quite dibilatating. This is used for cases of very violent suspects who are extremely impaired & uncontrollable.</p>

<p>I don't know. Was this yasering more or less cruel and painful than having a pair of women's panties put on your head?</p>

<p>What shocked me most, upon reflection, is that the people in the audience, for the most part, just SAT THERE. No one got up right away with their cameras/phones until well into the incident. The audience members just sat there, some watching, some looking at Kerry. It took a man being handcuffed & tasered for those kids to get up out of their seats. Amazing!</p>

<p>Weren't they curious? Were they so afraid to be implicated? That's a sociological & psychological story I'd like to hear more about.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>the guy was ON THE GROUND and you would smile</p>

<p>that is just sick</p>

<p>that alligator story doesn't quite match what happened on that tape, btw</p>

<p>too bad for videos</p>

<p>and fencersmother, I agree, that was scary seeing those kids just sitting there, no matter what the guy's "motives" were</p>

<p>the guy said he would leave, was on the ground and they electrocuted him</p>

<p>opie, guess that is okay with you?</p>

<p>He had already been arrested by the time he offered to leave, citygirlsmom. It doesn't work like that, not once the arrest has been made. Have a look at the videos in the links above, they show a clearer picture of him struggling with the police as they tried to cuff him when he was on the ground.</p>

<p>One thing I don't think I've heard anyone mention. Did anyone else notice the applause that broke out when the police started to escort Meyer away from the mic? Wonder what conclusion we should draw from that...</p>

<p>5 cops can't hold down one guy</p>

<p>he said, I will leave, take me out, I will walk out</p>

<p>and strick11, you would just lay there and let them haul you to jail for speaking up </p>

<p>yeah, if the cops came to grab me for talking, I would not just let them haul me out of there</p>

<p>so much for freedom in America</p>

<p>ps did look, some cops were pulling, some pushing, and gee, they had the taser on his chest and he was trying to move away from a torture device, how silly of him</p>

<p>Sorry citygirlsmom but after you curse at and attack a police officer, you can be the nicest person ever but you're not going to get released. </p>

<p>Resisting arrest is not speaking up... it's being a dick.</p>

<p>cgm: The guy clearly enjoys being a disturbance (the Harry Potter thing); he brought a camera to the event, and then asked the cops if there would be cameras at the jail!</p>

<p>I'm sorry, but a drive stun (lowest functional setting on a taser) to the shoulder to allow him to be cuffed is not some kind of egregious torture, nor is it in any way brutality. It worked, they were able to get him cuffed, and despite his wildly exaggerated histrionics, the whole thing was over with a minimum of fuss. Perfect outcome, in my opinion.</p>

<p>"opie, guess that is okay with you?"</p>

<p>absolutely. You're outrage is unwarranted and misguided. For his safety, the safety of the officers and the safety of others, the police did the right thing.</p>

<p>You are making an assumption of control that wasn't there. I would be more bothered if they clubed him as it would have taken more than once and could have damaged a knee or organ. The lower jolt, immediately brought the young man into compliance. At worst, he crapped himslef.</p>

<p>This is an idiot kid who seeks attention....ANY kind of attiention. He had numerous times to comply and simply leave. He forced the issue, he wanted to. Either that or UF lets some really stupid people enroll.</p>

<p>"he said, I will leave, take me out, I will walk out"</p>

<p>similar to south parks hunters who before they shoot anything "look it's charging shoot shoot" as the cow grazes.....;)</p>

<p>What he was saying and what he was doing were different things.</p>

<p>When a wife abuser yells at his wife "you know I don't want to do this" while he gleefully beats the snot out of her... is he telling the truth?</p>

<p>He says he doesn't want to do, but he does it? Which is correct his words or his actions? </p>

<p>Sometimes the "man" is just doing his/her job and they're not being the "man". </p>

<p>got it?</p>