I had a student get in LSA during the EA round who was TO. However, she had 2 5’s in APUSH and AP Lang to provide as standardized testing evidence.
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Totally don’t agree with this. It also depends on the grade in that AP class. Many a kid pre pandemic took the AP class and didn’t submit the score and are successfully doing great at Michigan
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Stats don’t tell the whole story. My older child and a friend had very similar stats when they applied. I don’t remember specifically, but if I had to guess his test score was slightly higher and her GPA was a bit better. She was accepted, he wasn’t.
If it had been a matter of looking at stats, they would likely have both gotten the same decision. Same with comparing 2 students from the same school when one is TO and one isn’t. The likelihood of otherwise identical applications is tiny.
Again, I don’t believe that Michigan is a true test optional school. But, many highly selective universities love the flexibility that TO gives them to build a class without worrying about lowering their average test score for ranking purposes. They can take more URMs, more interesting stories, and more etc., that they might not have in the past because their average test scores won’t be affected.
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Point taken. Any insight into what can be done if waiting to hear about Ross?
I saw a few test optional admits on Reddit/a2c.
There are lots. But percentages are low. But I take @CCName1’s point.
If accepted already EA? Nothing but wait it out. I will stress this again. At Michigan you don’t need Ross to go into the business field. But if you have to go to business school then theirs that. But tons of students have great internships /jobs without Ross. Lots of opportunities on campus to make your students successful and shine for those positions.
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That is such a bummer that your school “caps” recs like that. My hope for your daughter is she was able to get a glowing rec from someone else who knows her well. That’s the overriding goal!
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We will never know.
Not sure any of the teachers really know the kids in an online environment, during a pandemic, in a classroom of 30 kids.
In terms of getting good recs, It’s clearly better when the teachers work for and are paid by the parents!!
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I think it’s just a way for rejected/deferred kids to feel better lmao. Plus I agree with ur point that other stuff, such as essays, overall fit, ecs, lors, etc are as important as grades
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is it possibly for EA deferred applicants to hear in february? or wills it most likely be march,
To clarify - do you mean that some people simply don’t hear anything in that first wave - they get no reply, no acceptance, nothing, but those who do hear are all or mostly acceptances. And then in the second wave most are either accepted or waitlisted. And in the third wave, they either stay on the wait list or are rejected outright. Is that correct? I will look for your old post with the % and other data, although I recall you or someone saying that the CC applicants skew high. I’ve been told by other UM parents that kids can come off the wait list quite late, so it isn’t over til it’s over.
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Agreed. In my son’s large public school, his AP math and AP physics teachers, who know him the best, were both maxed out. So, his Umich rec was written by his AP CS teacher who he had never met other than via zoom and emails. I’m sure the LOR still felt generic even though the teacher took the time to ask a ton of questions in addition to discussing his achievements in her class.
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Good points
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Sure anything possible but no one knows if they will follow the historical convention. I think they will though.
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I think I have seen you ask some form of this question a few times now, and the answer is frustrating but true — after EA releases, Michigan changes their release schedule year to year, and they do not publish those dates. The Ross School of Business is very transparent and publishes their own release dates, but the University does not. We just all make an educated guess that UM might time their “waves” in close proximity to Ross but that’s not guaranteed.
So as much as you want an answer, none exists, other than a basic timeframe. Since the pandemic, UM has had an EA release in “late January” (our favorite term on here!) and 2-3 additional releases once a month or so leading up to end of March/beginning of April, where you learn your ultimate fate OR you are waitlisted. Hope that helps 
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Based on previous years, do they notify us that a ‘wave’ is coming via social media or do we just keep refreshing the portal? And BTW I’m counting on you all to notify me because my daughter never checks her portal 
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just keep refreshing the portal
But she will get a message on email telling her she has a message in portal.
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There are no subsequent rounds for him to be postponed to. This is already RD, i.e., there is no RD II. If they release decisions in waves, this is, in effect, rolling notification
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That’s correct. It’s possible not to hear a decision until April. That’s historically. Michigan’s MO can change at any time though.