For Wisconsin you forgot: Education (4), Biological Science (18), Chemistry (9), Computer Science (13), Earth Science (15), Economics (12), History (11), Library and Info (11), Math (16), Physics (17), Poli Sci (17), Psychology (13), Social Work (7), Sociology (7), and Stats (16). I skipped the professional programs
UF’s only T20 in non professional program is Criminology (15).
This is from the USNWR Graduate program rankings.
I used niche. And yes there’s many sources. Bcuz it’s got everything in one place.
They list Econ 43. Math 47.
This is the point tho. All these schools are good…and there’s a rank for whatever you want. You have us news and yes I know it’s the barometer but u have niche or Forbes (total school), wsj, etc.
My point is again the argument is silly.
Maybe some chooses Alabama or Arizona bcuz it’s much cheaper than Wisconsin or FSU, UF, UGA bcuz in state it’s cheap. Or UTK or Michigan State for supply chain. Or Depauw bcuz they love the campus.
My kid goes to a no name school (college of Charleston) bcuz it’s right for her even though she got into UGA, UF, Miami, SC Honors and Wisc would have been a slam dunk.
It’s fun but it’s silly is all I’m saying. They’re all fine schools!!!
It’s fun to argue who is best but it’s pointless.
btw - i don’t get the education rank - or why it matters. We are in the top school district (sometimes #2) in TN - and at least half the teachers went to MTSU. For the principals, most seem to do their PHD at Trevecca Nazarene.
My kids were taught by teachers from the likes of Ball State, Lee U, UTK, Belmont, etc.
I can’t imagine - especially for OOS tuition, sendng a kid to become a teacher or school administrator to a high priced school - which Wisconsin is - OOS - whether #4 or 44 or 444. If I lived in Wisconsin, I’d be there thought!!
Great profession - I laugh at the ranking thing - maybe I’m missing something there.
But they need teachers - and my guess is where you go is irrelevant. There’s some state licensing stuff no doubt - but schools are clamoring for anyone - nonetheless.
It isn’t really for people working in actual instruction. It is more about policy and methods. I had a friend get a PhD in Educational Psychology. His research area is computer aided learning. He has a BS/MS in CS. Many of the people in high ranked PhD Education programs are looking to go into academia (university level), consulting/think tanks, or government.
If you want to read what some of the PhD alumni do, it is here. Learning Sciences Alumni - Educational Psychology
That school offers EdD degrees, not PhD’s. The EdD is a professional degree. That is more common for school administrators.
got it - thanks for the explanations…i was just thinking in the schools but to your point, it’s well beyond.
Your right that no school should be belittled here and great students are at all schools. But you keep maintaining that FSU is a peer of Wisconsin. It is not and every person on this board has said the same over and over. Repeating it doesn’t make it true. The lower acceptance rate at FSU has to do with the fact the state population is so much larger in Florida. Wisconsin has a long history of academic excellence and an international reputation as an academic powerhouse. FSU may have improved but almost nobody thinks these schools are comparable.
My son did apply to UGA as well.
Hmmm. Acceptance rate does not equate to size of state. Do you use that to justify 60% UW to 32% FSU ? That’s….sorry…,a ridiculous hypothesis.
So Michigan or UVA just have low acceptance rates based on population?
Again they are both fine schools. Per niche and I know it’s not the ‘respected’ resource but it has most majors apples to apples…FSU had more top 20 including finance/accounting that UW doesn’t but they rate business overall higher at Wisconsin. Neither top 20.
Wisconsin has the slight overall edge in US news…42 to 55.
Btw this was about helping you find other B schools and FSU, along with UGA, U of SC, and Bama were ‘suggestions’. Nothing else.
And the overall differences are minimal.
But if you’re still living in the 20th century, I can see why you’d feel Wisconsin is at a different level 
Now I would put Wisconsin in a peer group with Minnesota, PSU, Ohio State…mainly other conference schools just like one might put FSU with Clemson, NC State…many actually do U of SC but that’s SEC.
You say potato. I say potato
You said u applied UGA. another fine school. My daughter didn’t like Athens…but most do. And the dorms, except Honors appeared a bus ride away. It’s an up and coming school. Huge campus. To me like Va Tech in that regard…
Ps. VA Tech…outside of engineering another similar school to both
Did anyone mention the 25/75 for SAT’s and uwGPA for each of these two schools? Just thought I’d throw it out there as “red meat.” 
FSU: 1,230-1,350, uwGPA = 3.59
Wisc: 1,350-1,480, uwGPA = 3.88
OK, this debate is getting tiring. Feel free to keep discussing which school are peers via PM but move on here.
it seems to me that the big public uni’s have tiers, based on reputation, networking, recruiting… with tier one being:
Berkeley
UCLA
Michigan
UVA
UNC
I can see why Florida might not yet be in that 1st tier, despite is equivalent selectivity and admitted student stats. But I see no reason why it shouldn’t be included in the 2nd tier, which to me seems to include:
U of Florida
Wisconsin
U of Texas
U of Washington (Seattle)
UC San Diego
and maybe Ohio State and Univ of Illinois along in tier 2?
And then tier 3 for me seems like:
Maryland
Indiana
Rutgers
Florida State
UC Santa Barbara
UC Davis
Anyway, this is of course not a complete list and I am leaving many schools out, but it does seem like the exclusion of some schools from discussions about top tiers is somewhat outdated and is not based on the quality of the students or the quality of the professors, which seem like important factors to me.
You have gotten a lot of good feed back
However, I see there is some Bias against the Florida schools
UF and FSU have been making great gains the last decade that some are reluctant to accept
The second tier of Florida Public schools USF and UCF are making great gains as well.
No-one said UF is the best school out there but that it is comparable to Michigan, Wisconsin and Texas. For most kids they are interchangeable based on fit and finances.
Many responses have questioned their #5 Public school rating that uses the same metrics as everyone else, while lauding a rating that shows another school ahead of UF by major in the same US News report.
For example UF / Wisconsin /FSU.
UF # 28 Wisconsin # 42 FSU # 55
I find in curious the argument Wisconsin is a comparable school of UF even though it is 14 spots lower than UF but oh no FSU can’t be considered in the same category as Wisconsin because it is rated 13 spots below them.
These I would consider the same tier.
For my S21 this was his tier, accepted to FSU, PITT, Penn State, Rutgers among others
We considered these schools relatively equal.
Living in Florida in state tuition is about $6,500 a year and we have prepaid this, along with the state Bright Futures scholarships that can pay 75 to 100 % of tuition based on your GPA Test scores and having a minimum number of volunteer hours.
Being full pay It would have taken a lot of merit to go OOS which he did not receive. He ended up at FSU and is currently studying at the FSU Study Center in Florence Italy and in the summer he will be studying at the FSU Study center in Valencia Spain.
Find the school in the “tier” that fits your needs Academically, socially, and financially.
Don’t discount location they will be living there for the next 4 years.
I don’t believe there’s anything to add. Closing.