Neither am I, but I don’t like it when someone tells me to not believe everything I read in a research document produced by most universities as the standard admissions doc. I think that’s, not to get in trouble with the mods, a “less than adequate” response.
And to answer your question, I believe the CDS over the website every day of week and twice on Tuesdays.
And please don’t tell me about the “real world.” That’s “less than adequate” as well.
Yes. It don’t forget this is who the school tracks.
UF lists
Ga tech
UCB, UC Davis, Irvine, LA, Dan Diego
Michigan
NC
UVA
Yes, the point is that Michigan doesn’t consider UF as a peer even though UF considers Michigan a peer. Go figure.
I haven’t researched UF, but this is what a poster said above about UF.
And Michigan advertises that 45 LSA programs are in the Top 10 in the US, which doesn’t include CoE, Kinesiology, Ross Business school, Nursing, etc., which are also tippy top programs.
So what. My school Syracuse lists Cornell and Michigan.
Schools can track who they want.
Few kids probably cross shop UF and UCB. But they chose them instead of UGA.
Again why are we debating which school is better? No one claimed Florida is ‘better’ than Michigan nor is it a question.
There are kids that apply to Michigan and the Ivies. There are kids tha apply to UF and the Ivies and kids that apply to Nebraska and the Ivies.
No clue what you are trying to prove and not sure it’s related to the topic anyway.
You’re missing the point. The other college in this example, Michigan, doesn’t list either Syracuse or UF as a peer. But Cornell, using the school you mentioned, does return the favor and lists Michigan as a peer.
No reciprocation. That’s the point.
FYI, Michigan and Florida are listed in the title of this thread under “College Search & Selection.” Also, the topic of peers was brought up by another poster.
I’m moving on.
I have an easier time calling Florida and Michigan peers, then calling Wisconsin and Yale peers, or Ohio State and MIT.
If Michigan has Ohio State and Maryland listed as peers, then why not Florida?
Yes. It you need to read the thread. Or the latest we are talking about that you’ve responded to
I get it. To me UF peers are Georgia, UNC, UVA, and even an Bama, U of SC, and UTK.
For the UCs I would think the Arizona, Oregon and Washington publics are peers even though they’re not in similar rank.
There’s really no analysis to be done with peer schools. It’s more subjective than ranking.
Michigan does have U if Florida as one of it peers in IPEDS. Michigan actually has 59 peers defined by them.
If you look at the data feedback reports on the IPEDS website, you can see who each school wants included as their peers.
If you read the link above, Michigan’s Almanac “Appendix A,” there’s 3 levels or groups of “peers” listed. Group #1 only includes the group that I posted above. Then it’s AAU institutions followed by B1G schools.
For the 5 schools discussed on this thread, here is who they have as peers on IPEDS. I am just looking at the 5 schools not all peers.
FSU: UF, UM, UT, UW
UF: UT, UM, UW
UM: UF, UT,UW
UT: UM, UW
UW: UF, UM, UT
The Michigan list doesn’t include Notre Dame
It includes UC San Francisco but not UC Santa Barbara or San Diego
Northwestern but not Duke
I can go on
I stand by my statement
The UM peer 1 list is all the big research institutions. That is why places like ND and UF are not on the list. A university is much more than the undergraduate teaching part.
I only listed what Michigan considers as its peers. You certainly can disagree with their list. The only one that seems strange to me is UCSF, but maybe that’s only related to graduate school.
UCSD and UCSB aren’t considered the state flagships like Cal and UCLA. ND is a Catholic institution, but that’s a guess. Duke? 
Edit: I see @Eeyore123 answered your question after my post.
Well UF has more NSF research dollars than USC, Northwestern, UT, UiUC and many more on the official peer list
NIH Ranking Research Dollars
UF middle of the [pack]
(https://report.nih.gov/award/index.cfm?ot=&fy=2020&state=&ic=&fm=&orgid=&distr=&rfa=&om=n&pid=)
The issue with UF when looking at it froma total university perspective is that they really don’t have any top ranked graduate programs. Graduate programs are a good proxy for department strength. UF’s all in 40 and below range. They have a few higher in professional programs, but they don’t get the weight of the traditional academic departments. The other schools are going to have multiple in the top 20 with a few in the top 10.
To be fair, I don’t think Yale considers UM a peer either.
“And in this case since the CDS contradicts the schools themselves, so one clearly isn’t …”
The CDS is also the school, just the research dept, and for sure has more accurate information than admissions or anywhere else. Putting something in the CDS vs a FAQ are very different things, typically don’t believe everything on the websites.
“Well UF has more NSF research dollars than USC, Northwestern, UT, UiUC and many more on the official peer list”
First off, UM and Wisconsin are considerably ahead of UF, (#2, #8), those are research powerhouses, so to be expected. And it’s not like UF is way ahead of USC, NU et al, they’re all pretty much in the same general area of R&D spending.
Again - in the end, it depends on so many factors - cost, where you’re from, major, etc.
But - if you want to look at # of programs top 20 - and yes, Michigan is strong but Wisconsin doesn’t come close overall to Florida. Nor FSU btw - and with both Florida schools accepting half the percentage of students of UW, on paper, it’s ridiculous to put UW in the same league (even though rank wise it’s in between). But again, these reasons alone are not reasons one should select one school over another.