<p>Geez, NJB, do you run background checks on all the people you know?</p>
<p>*
So, which is the better school? US News says Auburn,*</p>
<p>That is one year. In a previous year, Bama was over Auburn. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bama was over Auburn in Aug. they flip/flop.</p>
<p>though my friend did just get in there with a 3.0 and 1380/2400 on the sat.</p>
<p>We have no idea if this is true. You could be remembering wrong or the guy could be a special admit (admitted on academic probation). And Bama doesn’t use Writing, so we don’t know what this guy’s M+CR is.</p>
<p>guys, chill, im not being serious.</p>
<p>Of course you were being serious. Why else would you come to this forum and thread to post.</p>
<p>i live here in alabama, and realistically the requirements for admission are NOT that tough…scholarship criteria is different, and honors requirements are higher. alot of the selectiveness is based on sheer numbers of applicants not stats vs number of openings available. That said, they are both very good schools…are the top picks for most instate students and have been able to acheive a wonderful balance of being accessible to average students (alot of schools here in alabama do not offer honors or ap, or foreign language etc or even very many ec opportunities) but also to provide an excellent opportunity to top students from around the country or instate with very high stats</p>
<p>The thing that gets me is if 40% of applicants were rejected, then are they seriously incompetent if it’s so easy to get into bama… I can imagine schools want more out of state students since they pay more and so they’d accept as many as they can OOS… Some say it’s sooo easy, but I mean 40% are rejected so…</p>
<p>olivia, alot of that is based on number who apply vs how many spots available.<br>
and as they are a rolling admission school, it is not a factor of them waiting and only taking the top students ie like schools that notify on april1 …they are accepting students as early as august</p>
<p>given the average act scores in the posts above, that matches with the average act scores of alabama students (about 21-22)</p>
<p>from undergrad admissions NOTE 21 act and 3.0 gpa AND number of applications exceeds number of spaces available. </p>
<p>Admission Requirements for Freshman Students
The University of Alabama employs a competitive admission process that includes reviewing and evaluating each application on an individual basis for an applicant’s abilities as a student and a scholar. Decisions about the potential for your academic success at UA are based on your performance on the ACT and/or SAT, your high-school grade point average, and your high-school course schedule. (For example: a student with a 21 ACT or 1000 SAT along with a cumulative GPA of 3.0 should be successful at the University.)</p>
<p>ACT and/or SAT writing scores are required for Summer/Fall 2010 incoming freshmen (Read more…)
We are looking for students who show a commitment to academics and who welcome the robust exchange of ideas that occurs within a diverse and inclusive learning environment. Typically, the number of applications received exceeds the number of spaces available in the freshman class.</p>
<p>The thing that gets me is if 40% of applicants were rejected, then are they seriously incompetent if it’s so easy to get into bama…</p>
<p>It’s not as easy as that. Some get rejected because they applied later in the app season when there are few spots left and only the better applicants are accepted. Some might not have all the course req’ts.</p>
<p>"…given the average act scores in the posts above, that matches with the average act scores of alabama students (about 21-22) " </p>
<p>The average ACT of incoming UA freshman last fall was 24.9, up from 24.3 in
Fall of 2008. Auburn’s avg. ACT was 26.2 last fall, up from 25.9 in Fall of 2008. In Fall of 2007, UA’s avg. ACT was 24.5, and AU’s was 24.8, and in Fall of 2006, the avg. ACT for entering freshman at both UA and AU was 24.5. Yet, Auburn’s acceptance rate has basically stayed the same, while UA’s has declined significantly. The reason for the paradox lies in the fact that a much higher percentage of the applicants who apply to UA actually accept a UA admissions offer. Thus, over the last several years, UA has had a much bigger freshman class, with greater numbers of both the top notch students and the poorer performing students. With the enrollment now at almost 29,000, the admissions process will become even more selective, and I predict that ACT differential will go away.</p>
<p>Actually, last fall, only 57.4 % of applicants to UA were accepted.</p>
<p>i was talking about state of alabama students not UA students</p>
<p>from act.org,
Table 1.3. Five Year Trends—Average ACT Scores Nationwide
Average ACT Scores
Year English Mathematics Reading Science Composite
2005 1,186,251 20.4 20.7 21.3 20.9 20.9
2006 1,206,455 20.6 20.8 21.4 20.9 21.1
2007 1,300,599 20.7 21.0 21.5 21.0 21.2
2008 1,421,941 20.6 21.0 21.4 20.8 21.1
2009 1,480,469 20.6 21.0 21.4 20.9 21.1</p>
<p>Alabama’s trends don’t seem to differ much from the nationwide numbers</p>
<p>Nationwide…All Students</p>
<p>2005 - 20.9
2006 - 21.1
2007 - 21.2
2008 - 21.1
2009 - 21.1</p>
<p>The problem Bama faces is that minority students don’t fare that well on these tests - in Alabama or in other states.</p>
<p>National URM score avgs tend to be about 3-4 points below the “All Students Averages.” So, if Bama were to make a higher cut-off score for admittance, its URM numbers might tumble. I don’t think Bama wants that to happen.</p>
<p>Oh, and thegroogruxking,</p>
<p>SDSU is highly regarded as one of the top state schools (at the Cal State level) in California, along with CSUF. And while UCSD is a good school, I would beg to differ that the academic quality at SDSU is just about the same. I know many qualified applicants (think top 10% of 500 graduating seniors) at my school who got rejected at SDSU (their number one school) and into UCSD.</p>
<p>Geez, NJB, do you run background checks on all the people you know? </p>
<p>Fenno,</p>
<p>I don’t know the kid but a simple check of his posting history told me all I needed to know. Simply a kid trying to take a shot at my school. That’s not something I take kindly too. </p>
<p>It’s one thing for a member of the UA family to say something derogatory , but when an outsider does it (especially one who doesn’t know what he’s talking about) you can expect me to call them on it.</p>
<p>It was nice to see several others on here come to the defense of their school as well. Roll Tide!!</p>
<p>*I don’t know the kid but a simple check of his posting history told me all I needed to know. Simply a kid trying to take a shot at my school. That’s not something I take kindly too. *</p>
<p>I agree. It’s not like we’re going over to his school’s forum and posting nonsense.</p>