I have heard that UF is capped at 90% instate acceptance, but others have said UF looks at application location blind? I was wondering if thats true or not. Does the school have such few out-of-staters (only 3%!!!) because of such few oos applications or because the gov requires they take so many floridians?
I haven’t read about a cap on in or out of state admissions. But FL has Bright Futures funding for college which only goes to in-state schools as well as articulation agreements with local CCs. Other than that, I don’t know.
One thing I have heard is that many people just don’t want to pay the oos tuition
Where did you come up with 3%? it’s 8%. UF is looking to recruit more OOS students (for diversity reasons), so they are hiring more recruiters (I think mostly in the Midwest). However, it’s the OOS cost that’s most likely keeping the % low. UF’s yield rate (% of accepted students that enroll) is much lower for OOS students than in-state students.
Compared to many of the top state universities UF OOS tuition is low. There is only a $9k difference in Penn States INSTATE tuition and UF OUT OF STATE tuition. $9k is still $9k but comparatively that is low around the country.
There is very little data out there that I can find on OOS admission standards to UF. My kid compares very favorable against instate kids but who knows. At places like UVA there is a huge difference in instate vs OOS admission standards.
@citygator at William and mary, another public va college, they said they are required to have 2/3 of admits be residents of virginia
@citygator You can find some OOS admission data in the annual Admissions Report.
http://admissions.ufl.edu/flipbooks/2014_Admissions_Report/#?page=8
For example:
Overall for 2014:
28,655 applications, 13,072 Admits (45.6% admit rate), 6,514 enrolled Freshman (49.8% yield).
By Residency:
In-state: 21,298 Applicants, 10,369 Admits (48.7%), 5,855 Enrolled (56.5%)
Non-Florida: 5,486 Applicants, 2,332 Admits (42.5%), 569 Enrolled (24.4%)
The rest are international, undetermined, and military.
So, the In-state VS OOS Admit rate is 48.7% VS 42.5%.
The top feeder states are New York, New Jersey, Georgia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Virginia, California, Illinois and Texas.
The OOS Scholarship program (which are tuition reduction waiver awards):
42 Alumni ($8K a year)
17 Sunshine ($16K a year)
12 Gator Nation ($20K a year)
So, 71 out of 569 enrolled OOS students (12.5%) received a tuition waiver award.
The UF AO’s will say OOS students are not at a disadvantage as compared to in-state, and the admit rates are close. However, you really can’t tell much from holistic admissions. It’s a plus, for example to be first generation, legacy, be from a certain part of the state (rural), while we also know UF wants to increase it’s % of OOS students. Overall, I think the factors all balance each other out (as much as we can tell).
However, we do know UF doesn’t offer much in OOS merit awards (12.5%), and that UF doesn’t promise to met 100% need for OOS students. It also doesn’t do as much OOS recruiting as many other schools. UF doesn’t use the common app. All of these would be factors in driving OOS applications. A low OOS admit rate doesn’t seem to be one of the factors. (Edit: I should also point out that UF doesn’t have the national rep of an UVA or U-Michigan, but we’re working on it!)
By the way, lets look at UVA, one of the most competitive public universities when it comes to OOS students.
in 2015, they had 31,106 applications, of which 9,215 are in-state and 21,891 are OOS. The admit rate was 44.3% for in-state and 23.7% for OOS (this includes international). The yield rate was 60.7% for instate and 23.7% for OOS. The difference in in-state/oos admit rates at UVA is far greater than at UF, which is to be expected.
http://avillage.web.virginia.edu/iaas/instreports/studat/hist/admission/first_by_residency.htm
I thought I read somewhere that the Florida State University System (made up of the 12 state universities) has a residency enrollment requirement (something like 80%?), but that’s at the system level, a University could possibly go under this %, as long as the system was still above it. UF (or the state system) isn’t any where near this limit, and to be honest, I don’t think the state legislature would allow it.
President Fuchs has spoken several times about the need to increase OOS enrollment, but always in terms of increasing diversity, and never in terms of increasing revenue (via OOS tuition rates). He’s been very careful about it.
Gator 88NE, that was helpful. A 42.5% admit rate for OOS is very reasonable from a chance perspective.
The stats I found place OOS population at UF at 3% as well. Maybe the 8% is accepted students? @Gator88NE
Personally I’m waiting to see if I get any merit award but I’m not holding my breath.
I know that UF is talking about wanting to increase their OOS population but they are just talking. They do not try to attract (financially ) the students that will actually enroll at the school. They also do not do much to make the accepted students feel like they are wanted once they are enrolled. Other state schools do a lot more to try to convince accepted OOS students to enroll. I like UF a lot but their attitude seems to be we are great so you should come here. Without actually trying to show why. It’s still a top choice for me but it’s hard to justify the OOS tuition without any type of merit aid.
UF is trying to attract the OOS students for two reasons one is to increase their ratings and the other to increase their income. Since OOS tuition is about four times that of in state tuition. If you look at it that way other State schools are more expensive in state so they might only be double for OOS.
@NewYorker404 I’m using Fall 2014 data for the 8% OOS.
http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=University+of+Florida&s=all&id=134130#enrolmt
A lot of great OOS students end up passing on UF, due to cost. It’s likely the number one reason for the low OOS yield rate (about 24% or 3 in 4 admitted OOS students do not enroll), as compared to the in-state rate (50%+).
@NewYorker404 I agree with what you say above. My high stat son from New York applied last year to several OOS State flagships, also, like you, looking for a good undergrad business program in a University which provides a fuller college experience than that of the SUNYs. Florida gave 0 merit aid (they offer very few to OOS applicants) and when I called Admissions to see if they could at least match one of his several other merit aid offers (from Ohio State/Fisher, UMass/Isenberg, Maryland/Smith) the admissions officer (a woman) said “No our decisions on merit aid are final” (in a thick Southern accent) and she abruptly hung up on me. Florida did nothing to court my son, whereas these other schools sent lots of emails, mail, to try and recruit. He ended up at Ohio State’s Fisher College of Business with $15K merit aid, and admission to the honors program was another inducement to attend. I am glad he is happy there.
@NewYorker404 - My daughter is also waiting to hear if she got one of the OOS scholarships from UF. She has already received the full out-of-state tuition waiver from FSU so it would be difficult to justify the full $29,000 out of state tuition to UF (if she got nothing from UF) when FSU would only cost $7,000 for tuition with the waiver. We love UF but $22,000 a year more is tough to rationalize…
Years ago, UF was similar to schools like Oklahoma in terms of aggressively going after high stat/NMF OOS kids. That changed over time as successive state budget crises have lead the state legislature to prioritize serving instate kids for all of Florida’s Universities.
UF has become very good at this by keeping costs under control and being proactive in moving education to a cheaper but hopefully still effective digital platform. As Florida’s population grew and UF’s in-state cost remained a bargain in a world of ever increasing tuition, UF has been able to attract an ever more competitive set of students from in-state alone. Unlike rural states like Alabama or Midwest/Plains states with low population growth, UF has plenty of high stat in-state kids to pick from.
Given that UF is focused on cutting costs and doesn’t see competing for the high stat OOS as a priority, they place little or no emphasis on recruiting them. In fact, the OOS scholarships is the only thing I am aware of that UF does. After all, one of the ways UF saves money is that they do not operate all of these expensive out of state recruiting programs.
OOS S16 Received email today from UF offering Sunshine Scholarship OOS award for $16K/year, total value $64K. Very thankful for the honor, hoping for more to make attendance a reality.
Gender: M
Location: BIRMINGHAM
College Class Year: 2020
High School: Public
High School Type: sends many grads to top schools
Academics:
GPA - Unweighted: 3.74
GPA - Weighted: 4.29
Class Rank: top 5%
Class Size: 321
ACT: 34
Significant Extracurriculars: CAS Workstudy-2 yrs, Beta Club-3yrs, FPS, 4yrs, Math team 4yrs, F/T job summer
Leadership positions: Beta Club, Pres-2 years, Master of Ceremonies for IB Talent Show
Athletic Status - list sport and your level: Varsity Tennis
Volunteer/Service Work: Tutor at middle school-3yrs, Humane Society-1yr, Zoo-2yrs, multiple svc projects-4yrs
Honors and Awards: AP National Scholar, German HS, Science HS, Math HS, IB HS, Superintendent Super Scholar, Ten80 STEM Reg event-1st place RC Car team, National German Exam-Above Average Performance award
Any notification on portal or just mail?
my bad, via email to forwarding address. I mistakenly inferred usps.
My son just received the 16K sunshine scholarship as well! We are very surprised. Stats are good, but not as high as @WeSayWarEagle
Received an email about the 20k presidential scholarship today.
OOS
34 act
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