University of Maryland - College Park EA Class of 2023

oops… I hit send before I finished.
I hope the rest of you affected by this “no decision but all documents in on time” get explanations.

maryversity - could you please advise on internal transfer into CS from L&S? Similar to Engineering? My son has a tough decision on UMD L&S vs. direct admission into CS program at UMass. He’d like to better understand opportunity/risk of coming into UMD w/in L&S, with aspirations of gaining CS degree.

@bpsulliv - I’m sure that @maryversity will respond when she can

This is the first year that CS is a LEP at UMD, so there is no prior experience related to CS internal transfer. Here is a link with info, but no one can say at this point how competitive it may be. I would recommended attending an Admitted Student Day, if you can.

https://lep.umd.edu/cs-lep.pdf

UMD admissions closed today at 1pm due to cold weather. Does anyone know if it’s easy or even possible to change from CS to EE ? Some colleges allow and some don’t.

@bpsulliv, I think the only possible insight I can add to what @SoofDad said, is that I did not see any phrasing to the effect of needing to undergo a competitive review. So, I think (and that means it’s my personal opinion, not to be interpreted as fact) that means that at this stage of the game (1st year of being designated a LEP), they don’t expect to make it a competitive review process, but of course, we shall see.
https://cmns.umd.edu/undergraduate/admissions/new-faqs-computer-science-limited-enrollment

@cshigh If you are talking about changing major now, before accepting admission/matriculating, I believe it is allowed/not a problem to ask… this means that your application will have to be reviewed by Clark (school of engineering) for the change. The review process (what they are looking for in an applicant) is different from one LEP to the next, so admission to one LEP does not infer that you will definitely be admitted to a different one.

FYI, before you request the change, you might want check out the curricula for EE https://eng.umd.edu/sites/clark.umd.edu/files/resource_documents/enee-4yrplan-ge-update-fall-2018.pdf
and the one for computer engineering https://eng.umd.edu/sites/clark.umd.edu/files/resource_documents/comp-4yrplan-ge-updated-fall-2018.pdf
If you want to go the engineering route, you do NOT need to declare discipline (electrical or computer) until sophomore year, so it’s more a question of if you want the engineering route or comp sci route. I was just showing you the coursework to gauge your interest since Maryland has both CompSci and Computer Engineering whereas other schools may offer one or the other or combine EE with CompE.

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I must not quite understand the part where if you are not in engineering program you must obtain permission from engineering department to take their engineering course?

@maryversity thank you for the info. Since I don’t have to declare engineering now, I can as well accept and join, and work with guide for transition into EE in my freshman, can’t I? Actually I know CS is good program at UMD, perhaps better known than engineering. So I put primary CS and secondary EE. I thought I would get EE. Well I got CS :slight_smile: Either way I will be happy. I am Math and Physics person and so I thought EE is better fit, though I also completed all CS courses at my high.

@Allecto, since engineering is a limited enrollment program, that means that engineering courses are restricted -they have a limited number of seats- and only students that are “in” the engineering school can sign up for these classes. If your student ID doesn’t have the designation that identifies you as a student enrolled in the Clark School of Engineering, you would be “blocked” from signing up for engineering classes (unless it is a course specifically stating that its open to anyone). Getting permission gives a one-time code specific to your id and tied to the one specific class you obtain permission to sign up for a “hold” list to sign up if there are any seats that remain open. Note that “hold” is different than “waitlist”

What does “getting permission” mean? Since a lot of students are trying to apply to engineering, or a particular course has a broader interest (so content perhaps appeals to a CompSci student for example) they can request permission to sign up for the class. If the permission is granted, they will be put on a special “hold” list. AFTER all engineering students have had the opportunity to enroll in the class, IF there are any open seats, they would allow students on that special hold/side list. Understand if a class is full, engineering students can sign up for a “waitlist.” Waitlist students get priority over hold list students in these cases since waitlist students are engineering students.

How often that kind (hold list) of seat opens is dependent on the class, but honestly, not very likely, especially for classes that are required for engineering. That’s actually why they started offering different sections of engineering design for students in Letters & Sciences (L & S) that are looking to do internal transfer to engineering. That course is designated as ENES100A, and only students not in the school of engineering can sign up for that, whereas students already “in” the school of engineering would take ENES100. In that way, students in L & S can “keep up” with direct admits as far as timeline of when they take classes.

@cshigh - do you have more of an interest in actual programming or electronics design?

And to clarify, when I said you don’t have to “declare” discipline until sophomore year, that only means after you are in the school of engineering. So, what I meant was if you want your application to be reviewed for engineering, you don’t need to specify EE or CompE to have your application reviewed, but should do it now before you start, if that’s what you want. Once in the school of engineering, then you have until sophomore year to declare the specific discipline you wish to pursue as that affects the classes you take. Only the first year of engineering classes are broad-based/foundational for all disciplines of engineering.

Thank you. Thats what I thought. He is much better off at a schools that offered direct engineering program admission. If he decides to try and transfer after 45 credits that would still be an option but in those other programs he will have priority access to registration for engineering classes he needs from the beginning and not have to stress over that. God knows, there will be enough stress as it is.

what type of information do we include in the honors preference form as to why we chose our top 3? how long/deep does this response have to be?

@Allecto, I get what you are saying and totally understand your concerns. On the surface, it does seem like a disadvantage, but I promise my son had several friends in scholars that were not direct admits to engineering but every single one of them got in and graduated with an engineering degree. Only one of those friends did not graduate the same semester but only because he changed the discipline of engineering, not because it was a problem getting classes. Once admitted to engineering, you have that priority for class sign up.

You should take a look at the first year classes. The required classes that freshmen engineering students take are math, physics, chemistry, engineering design (ENES100) and then some gen ed classes. None of these are restricted to engineering except for ENES100. The only class that was an “issue” for L&S students in the past was the ENES100. So, they resolved that issue by offering ENES100A. Same class, same credit towards engineering degree, same fulfillment of that class for prerequisite to higher level classes. Not an issue.

@maryversity Interested in both. Part of me says take EE as I want to apply math and physics. May be major in EE with minor in CS? I can pursue in AI and other specialization in masters. I have to still think through guess

@Ezga3969 - It’s been a few years since my D filled out the form, so it may have changed. But back then, she had points to distribute between her choices and also wrote a brief paragraph stating why she wanted her first choice.

@cshigh I would def look at the classes you have to take to see what appeals to you the most.

You def can do a minor in CompSci (although as a minor, now that it is also a LEP I’m not sure how that affect the process).

However, if you are interested in AI, you should def go the CompSci route. CompSci is going to be even more exciting with the opening of the Iribe Center…

FYI, here are some links you might find interesting
https://www.cs.umd.edu/researcharea/ai-and-robotics
http://hcil.umd.edu
https://isr.umd.edu

Feel free to pm me if you have any specific questions. While I can’t answer anything about CompSci, I can answer at least some questions about engineering and robotics at Maryland (my son also got his Masters in robotics at Maryland).

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