<p>I have worked in NYC at the major offices of what would be considered a top-tier consulting firm. I know people in all areas of business. No one I know considers NYU a top school comparable with Ivies, even in NYC. Nice try though.</p>
<p>Nice try by you. I could care less what you say, because it's false. I'll take a school with an acceptance rate lower than 50% and SAT over 1200, thank you.</p>
<p>i'm starting to expect nyusternman is an admissions officer for nyu...hmmm... ;)
anyway i was wondering if nyu has a lower acceptance rate and higher avg. SAT score, why is umich rated better?</p>
<p>You really shouldn't gauge how good a school is based on acceptance rate, especially private vs. public. </p>
<p>Example:</p>
<p>Pepperdine has the same acceptance rate as Cornell, & a lower acceptance rate than Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, and Chicago. Pepperdine is nowhere near the quality of all the aforementioned schools.</p>
<p>Okay NYUSTERNMAN,</p>
<p>Here are the facts from the class of 2008. NYU is about 10 points higher on the SAT than Michigan overall, but so much lower on top 10% of class. It can be easily argued that Michigan has a stronger student body. And comparing NYU to an Ivy is laughable. Look at NYU compared to Dartmouth, Dartmouth is 140-150 points higher. Not even close!!! There are the facts: source: princeton review.</p>
<p>New York University<br>
Freshmen Academic Profile
SAT - Verbal Range (25-75%): 610-700
SAT - Math Range (25-75%): 610-710
SAT - Range (25-75%): 1220-1410
Students in top 10% of HS class: 63% </p>
<p>Michigan:
Freshmen Academic Profile
SAT - Verbal Range (25-75%): 580-680
SAT - Math Range (25-75%): 630-720
SAT - Range (25-75%): 1210-1400
Students in top 10% of HS class: 90% </p>
<p>Now for the Ivy:</p>
<p>Dartmouth College
Freshmen Academic Profile
SAT - Verbal Range (25-75%): 670-770
SAT - Math Range (25-75%): 690-780
SAT - Range (25-75%): 1360-1550
Students in top 10% of HS class: 88%</p>
<p>BTW-
I have never encountered any people have a more falsely inflated impression of their school than NYU students. THAT is a fact. Maybe it comes with being a New Yorker, I don't know.</p>
<p><a href="http://admissions.nyu.edu/fast_facts/%5B/url%5D">http://admissions.nyu.edu/fast_facts/</a></p>
<p>Good alteration of the facts, big man.
Michigan:</p>
<p>Stern is an average 1412 putting it with the Ivies. You seem like a reject, with the way you are obsessed with misrepresenting the truth.
Have fun at your "top 7" mba program, haha.</p>
<p>I don't want a 17 year old who has to be make a decision to be swayed by someone's false opinions. I'm trying to help the kid, and I can speak from experience than going to Mich would be a mistake.</p>
<p>I don't really see how you can accuse someone of altering the facts when you yourself use NYU's class of 2009 data versus Michigan's class of 2007 data.</p>
<p>thats the most recent data, from the site.</p>
<p>NYUSTERN,</p>
<p>I am going to my program because of its location in NYC - for what I particularly want to do it can't be beat. Also, I have never said Stern isn't regarded as a top school, but Stern and normal NYU are VERY different animals. For some reason NYU people seem to drop Stern into the equation when convenient. I can assure you Ross' scores are much higher than Michigan's average as well. </p>
<p>My facts were for the class of 2008 from PR. You are showing 2009 data at NYU from their website, and the Michigan data you show is for the class of 2007 there. I would believe given the big boost in applications at Michigan the past two years it has grown as well.</p>
<p>Anyone have USNEWS ranges from the 2006 issue? That's the best we can do...if we want to continue the flame war that is.</p>
<p>I HAVE STARTED A WAR!! :D</p>
<p>well...i still seem to be in quite a dillemmia...all altercation of data aside, which school can i get a better education and internship opportunities
btw- dont know if this helps but i really don't want to go into management
maybe do something like finance or marketing...</p>
<p>I've got US News 2006 but it only has Michigan's ACT range, not SAT range.</p>
<p>"btw- dont know if this helps but i really don't want to go into management
maybe do something like finance or marketing..."</p>
<p>According to US News 2006..... </p>
<p>Undergrad Finance:</p>
<h1>2 NYU</h1>
<h1>3 Michigan</h1>
<p>Undergrad Marketing</p>
<h1>2 Michigan</h1>
<p>NYU is unranked (They only rank 5)</p>
<p>Marketing and Finance are drastically different.</p>
<p>That's because the Michigan SAT ranges for 2006 has not yet been computed. For the Freshmen entering in the fall of 2004, the SAT range was 1240-1400 and the mean was 1330. </p>
<p>I must say, it is refreshing seeing Slipper stand up for good old Michigan! LOL</p>
<p>spongebob squarepants, Ross and Stern are both top programs. I would not say either one is one the rise or in the decline. Ross' BBA program has been ranked between #1 and #3 for the last decade and Ross' MBA program has been ranked anywhere between #1 (WSJ) or #2 (Businessweek) and #10 (USNWR) for the last 20 years or so. Stern's BBA program has beeen ranked between #5 and #7 for the last decade and Stern's MBA program has been ranked anywhere between #9 or #10 by the FT and #14 or #15 by the USNWR and Businessweek. Both are improving of course, but then again, so is every other top-ranked Business program. It is not like all the other Business institutions has come to a standstill and that Stern and Ross are the only ones moving upwards or downwards (as some would suggest!).</p>
<p>If finance is you thing, the two schools are roughly equal, with the slight edge going to Stern. If your interests lie in another business field, I would give the edge to Michigan, in some cases, by a large margin (especially in Marketing and Management). But I would first find out what it is that you want, expect and even need in a college atmosphere and lifestyle. NYC and Ann Arbor are very different, as are the campuses of those two giant universities. There is no way that both schools will fit your style perfectly.</p>
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<blockquote> <p>I must say, it is refreshing seeing Slipper stand up for good old Michigan! LOL</p> </blockquote>
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<p>LOL, didn't see that one coming, did you Alexandre!</p>
<p>I think Alexandre hit the nail on the head. Bottom line, Stern and Ross are both top schools and a graduate will have plenty of opportunities. </p>
<p>For someone undecided between marketing and finance, choosing between these for reasons other than quality of life doesn't really makse sense. What is better, BMW or Mercedes? Answer: Both. Depends on preferences, that's it.</p>
<p>Wait, NYU on par with Ivy League and other such schools?
maybe, I wouldn't know, but I know that NYU is in a cool place and is an awesome school, but just from objective, published facts, I wouldn't say its on par with anyone, and is pretty comparable to Michigan in business (though probably behind it in most other fields)</p>
<p>USNEWS = garbage
michigan is a great school.
and nyu is too. but nyu is a bitttt more expensive $$$$$$$$$
so i choose michigan.</p>
<p>I tell you Slipper, I am still getting over the shock. Don't worry though, I won't let it get to my head! hehe</p>
<p>Both great business schools, you can't lose with either. Oh and regardless what people say in here, you will have just as many opportunities from Stern as UMich. </p>
<p>Go to Michigan if you want the real college experience. </p>
<p>Go to NYU if you want to live the city life.</p>
<p>Afterhours has is perfect.</p>