<p>Hi guys!</p>
<p>I applied to both Umich and UNC already, and was accepted into LSA at Michigan two weeks ago during the first wave of decisions. I haven't heard back from UNC yet, but I wanted to know the pros and cons of each school. (Campus, social life, school in general)... p.s. i intend to double major in communications and economics. And Business in general.</p>
<p>Thanks in advance!!!!</p>
<p>Michigan
national/international reputation
better business school
better economics program
football tradition
more diverse
UNC
weather
better communications program
basketball tradition</p>
<p>As far as college towns go, Ann Arbor and Chapel Hill are as good as it gets.</p>
<p>What are your stats?</p>
<p>Both are great schools, I personally would prefer University of Michigan but which is more affordable for you?</p>
<p>well my gpa is around 3.8 and i got a 31 on my ACT. I currrently attend a private school in Michigan so in-state tuition would be cheaper than UNC. I’m actually not sure if I can even get into UNC with my stats, but we’ll see. Any other differences and advice?</p>
<p>Thx for the responses!!</p>
<p>Well from what I’ve heard the universities are very similar. Speaking of geting accepted into UNC you probably ( and only if you absolutely wanted to attend as top choice) should have applied as a ED application, meaning if accepted you will attend… that cold have improved your chances.</p>
<p>yeah i submitted my app in september, so i should get my early action in january. From then on, if i get accepted, then ill have to pick on over the other. From some of these posts it seems that UNC has a better communications program, while UM has a better business school in general. I have no idea…</p>
<p>Chapel Hill is probably the best college town in the country. Almost everything there revolves around the campus. Also, UNC has great scholarships which you could be considered for, so don’t think that just because you are out of state you will have to pay more. Also, Chapel Hill is situated in the “Research Triangle” between NC State and Duke so there are great research opportunities available there.</p>
<p>Michigan
national/international reputation
better business school
better economics program
football tradition</p>
<p>UNC
good reputation
weather
better communications program
basketball tradition
great diversity
great atmosphere
good location in the research triangle</p>
<p>Yeah scholarships are probably going to be a major factor in my decision. Also i have heard that it is nearly impossible for OOS to get into UNC…so im a little worried in for that reasoning!</p>
<p>^
Well I’ve just seen your stats posted on the other forum and I would think you have a good chance at UNC but OOS can be a non preference factor. I can’t really say anything about communications since I’m not well known to that study nor any rankings.</p>
<p>Yeah, it’s tough to get in to UNC OOS. Each class can only be a maximum 18% OOS by law, so they only pick the best students, but you have a great chance of being accepted. UNC places a lot of emphasis on essays too. Good Luck!</p>
<p>Harambee, UNC is not diverse. Only 16% of UNC undergrads are out of state, compared to 30% at Michigan and only 1% (200) of UNC undergrads are international compared to 5% (1,400). </p>
<p>In-State Students:
Michigan: 17,000 (65%)
UNC: 14,500 (83%)</p>
<p>Out of State Students:
Michigan: 7,500 (30%)
UNC: 2,500 (16%)</p>
<p>International students:
Michigan: 1,400 (5%)
UNC: 200 (1%)</p>
<p>African American Students:
Michigan: 1,600 (6%)
UNC: 1,900 (11%)</p>
<p>Asian American Students:
Michigan: 2,900 (11%)
UNC: 1,225 (7%)</p>
<p>Hispanic American Students:
Michigan: 1,300 (5%)
UNC: 700 (4%)</p>
<p>Overall, I think Michigan is more diverse.</p>
<p>
That is simply not true. UNC - Chapel Hill is smaller university compared to UMich, so it would only make sense that UMich has more OOS students. Chapel Hill has only ~18,000 undergraduates while UMich has around 26,000 undergraduates. Also take into perspective, that out of state athletes can be counted as in-state students, so the actual number of out of state students is around 20%. Also, North Carolina as a state is more diverse than Michigan. Besides, UMich doesn’t have a cap on the number of OOS students it can have. I’ve lived in both Michigan and North Carolina, and overall, I think that North Carolina is more diverse. Just my $0.02.</p>
<p>u forgot to add michael jordan under the unc category, lol</p>
<p>Alexandre that cleared up a lot. Thank you!!!</p>
<p>And Harambee,</p>
<p>are there any other major differences in the campus life between these two schools, i;m guessing u know more since u are from NC.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Well, for UNC campus life, I would say there’s a lot of school pride, and a lot of focus on sports. Because the city of Chapel Hill is centered around the university, the college is more closely knit and there is always something to do. I’ve been to Ann Arbor, and there just isn’t to much to do unless you are a student. UMich is great, depending on what you want to do, so it really depends. Also there is more Greek life at UMich than at UNC. I also believe that while UMich is a larger school with a larger focus on research, the research opportunities you have in “the Triangle” area of NC, are opportunities that you won’t find anywhere else in the nation.</p>
<p>Something else: Chapel Hill has a long-standing tradition of basketball, so during basketball season you might get a different vibe. Last year when UNC won the Championship, thousands of students stormed Franklin street to celebrate. UMich also has a long standing tradition with football, but it’s been on the decline recently.</p>
<p>Wow this is harder than i thought! Can u tell me more about the business school, communications and Economics program at UNC, because no one from Michigan seems to know the details at UNC and how it stacks up to Michigan and Ross.</p>
<p>“UNC - Chapel Hill is smaller university compared to UMich, so it would only make sense that UMich has more OOS students. Chapel Hill has only ~18,000 undergraduates while UMich has around 26,000 undergraduates.”</p>
<p>Harambee, I was looking at relative (percentage) diversity, not absolute diversity. 30% of Michigan undergrads are OOS residents and 5% are international students, compared to 16% being OOS residents and 1% international students at UNC. As such, it is fair to say that Michigan is more diverse than UNC. And in absolute terms, 1,400 international students vs 200 is a very significant difference.</p>
<p>“Also take into perspective, that out of state athletes can be counted as in-state students, so the actual number of out of state students is around 20%.”</p>
<p>I am fairly certain that the numbers I provided include all students, including student athletes. As state universities, Michigan and UNC must include all enrolled students when discolsing statistics about the University, including athletes.</p>
<p>“Also, North Carolina as a state is more diverse than Michigan. Besides, UMich doesn’t have a cap on the number of OOS students it can have. I’ve lived in both Michigan and North Carolina, and overall, I think that North Carolina is more diverse. Just my $0.02.”</p>
<p>That may be true, although numbers do not bear this out. The state of North Carolina is 75% white, 22% African American and 3% other. The state of Michigan is 82% white, 15% African American and 3% other. As a city, Ann Arbor (which is 75% white, 10% African American and 12% Asian American) is certainly as diverse as Chapel Hill (which is 78% white, 11% African American and 7% Asian).</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong, I love UNC. I always list it among the best universities in the US. It is the only university to have rejected me as an undergrad, and I got into some pretty selective schools. But diversity is not a word I would use to describe it.</p>
<p>Again Harambee, you make sweeping comments that aren’t accurate.</p>
<p>“Well, for UNC campus life, I would say there’s a lot of school pride, and a lot of focus on sports.”</p>
<p>You have described Michigan as well as UNC. Michigan, like UNC, has a lot of school pride and a focus on sports.</p>
<p>“Because the city of Chapel Hill is centered around the university, the college is more closely knit and there is always something to do. I’ve been to Ann Arbor, and there just isn’t to much to do unless you are a student.”</p>
<p>I am not sure I understand your point here. Are you saying that there isn’t much to do in Ann Arbor if you aren’t a student? Do you mean to say that there is a lot to do in Chapel Hill if you aren’t a student? And why should the OP care what offerings the cities of Ann Arbor and Chapel Hill hold for non-students since he is primarily intending to live in those citis as a student. But to set the record straight, there is a lot to do in Ann Arbor, whether you are a student or not. The city of Ann Arbor has a sizeable white colar, professional population and they seem very content living in Ann Arbor. I have seen Ann Arbor ranked among the top 10 places to live for teenagers, young adults, young professionals, familiars and retirees. As a city, you will be hard pressed to find a nicer and more balanced college town than Ann Arbor.</p>
<p>“UMich is great, depending on what you want to do, so it really depends. Also there is more Greek life at UMich than at UNC.”</p>
<p>Again, that is not accurate. 15% of Michigan students belong to Greek live, compared to 17% at UNC. I don’t see the difference here.</p>
<p>“Something else: Chapel Hill has a long-standing tradition of basketball, so during basketball season you might get a different vibe. Last year when UNC won the Championship, thousands of students stormed Franklin street to celebrate. UMich also has a long standing tradition with football, but it’s been on the decline recently.”</p>
<p>Michigan’s football program is not on the decline. It has had a couple of bad seasons in the last decade, but the program itself is still attracting some of the best recruits, the stadium still fills up to capacity and in the next couple of years, Michigan should be back to its winning ways.</p>
<p>Don’t debate with Alexandre, you will always lose lol.</p>