University of Minnesota-College of Biological Sciences

<p>Hi all-</p>

<p>I have read quite a few good things regarding the College of Biological Sciences. Can someone share their experiences- pros/cons-and what made you choose CBS over any other University?</p>

<p>I have also read a statement from the dean where he is saying that making CBS the number one program in the country is a primary goal. How does the program rank, what ranking agency, with similar programs at UW Madison, University of Michigan, University of Illinois, John Hopkins, Northwestern etc.</p>

<p>PS. What is the average class size?</p>

<p>Thank you</p>

<p>I also get in to CBS, and want to know more about it. Is the course really hard? </p>

<p>waiting for someone to answer.</p>

<p>CBS classes are rigorous, but if you got in (most selective college at the U of M) and you study well, you should be fine. CBS is making a very strong effort to improve and I don’t think it would be a stretch to say that it is comparable to some of the best public programs at other universities - though CBS is usually not recognized as such. Nature of Life at Lake Itasca the summer before freshman year is a great way to get started with college.</p>

<p>The lectures are large with approximately 100 students each, but labs and discussion sections typically have 20 students or less.</p>

<p>I started my freshmen year at the U of M fully intending to graduate from CBS. While it is an incredible program, I ran into a few cons along the way that made me transfer to CFANS, the College of Food, Agriculture, and Natural Resources Science. CBS is all about building up a truly massive foundation. For your first two years, you’ll be hit with intense foundational courses like biology, chemistry, physics, and math. After that, you’re looking at graduate-level courses in things like cell biology, molecular genetics, microbial genomics, etc. While these classes are great for preparing you for graduate school, they don’t give you much opportunity to do fieldwork and practical applications, which is what I personally was really after. When I began expressing interest in maybe transferring to CFANS, my adviser revealed that some students in CBS burn out as they approach graduation as a result of all the heavy, foundational, nonspecializing courses. CBS also requires extra projects like interviewing a professor or meeting with a weekly study group. Overall, if you’re really passionate about CBS, then definitely go for it, but I like to encourage all future freshmen to keep there options open and allow yourself to consider different possibilities.</p>

<p>Does anyone know the acceptance rate for the College of Biological Sciences? A friend of my daughter’s got in and his mom is telling me that they only accept 1% of applicants. That is obviously not true, since the U of M site says 325 freshmen enrolled last year. If EVERY one of the 26,000 applicants applied to CBS, the rate would still be over 1%. I couldn’t find the acutal stats anywhere, but the U did say hundreds are accepted and a few thousand apply to CBS. I would guess around 2500-3000 apply, 800 get accepted, and around 325 actually attend. This would give a rate of about 30%. Does this seem accurate?</p>

<p>CSOM last year was 24%. So I imagine CBS is right around there between 20-30%.</p>

<p>what isthe acceptance rate for IT or CSE?</p>

<p>I was wait listed to CBS… is that a good or bad sign? It sounded like a “hopeful” letter as some say.</p>

<p>MKrause2009: Thank you for your post. It was very informative. My D is still waiting for info from UM. She applied to CBS as her first choice and CLA as her second choice. She is most interested in the Ecology, Evolution and Behavior major. She really liked the idea of the Nature of Life at Lake Itasca program prior to Freshman year for CBS students. </p>

<p>In CLA, she likes the Biology, Society, and Environment major. The Fisheries and Wildlife major in CFANS would be a possibility as well although the whole “agriculture” focus of CFANS kind of turned her off. </p>

<p>I guess my question is, how difficult or disruptive is it to switch colleges? It seems like all of these programs have a lot of overlap in the courses for the first couple of years. </p>

<p>Thanks for your help.</p>

<p>Yup, all of those programs are going to have tons of overlap as far as courses go. Luckily that makes it much easier to take your time choosing a science major because the first two years of CLA, CBS, and CFANS biology-related majors are going to be very very similar. Many of the majors require two semesters of general chemistry, one or two semesters of organic chemistry, biochemistry, one or two semesters of physics, and one or two semesters of calculus. CLA and CFANS will require BIOL 1009, a one semester introductory biology course, while CBS requires two semesters of “Foundations of Biology,” or BIOL 2002 and BIOL 2003 with BIOL 2004 lab. Save for the difference in biology core curriculum, students in their first two years have a significant amount of freedom as far as exploring biology-related majors. </p>

<p>Transferring colleges can be tricky if you don’t have the right information. Students who wish to transfer are required to turn in a “Change of College” form to OneStop before their desired college’s deadline. Applications are accepted in both the fall and spring semester. Each college has a set of requirements that must be met in order to be accepted into the college.</p>

<p>For CBS, admission is based on completing 26 semester credits with a cumulative grade point average (GPA) of 2.0, and achieving a “science GPA” of 2.5 with a minimum of 3 courses in science that are applicable to a CBS degree program. These courses include specific biology, chemistry, physics, calculus, and statistics classes which can be found at [Effective</a> Fall 2009 | Transferring Within U of M ~ College of Biological Sciences](<a href=“http://www.cbs.umn.edu/studentservices/transfer/within.html]Effective”>http://www.cbs.umn.edu/studentservices/transfer/within.html). Often times students who are not in CBS and desire to transfer in want to stay on schedule for their coursework and desire to take BIOL 2002, 2003, or 2004 before they have been accepted to the college. This can be tricky because students who register for those courses while not in CBS are waitlisted while priority is given to current CBS students. Sometimes this can squeeze students who desire to be in CBS , but more often than not, all waitlisted students can get into those courses with no problems.</p>

<p>As far as I can derive from the website, CLA biology-related programs do not have any transfer admission requirements. CFANS, on the other hand, requires that students have a solid foundation in math and science along with the completion of intermediate algebra at the college level with a passing grade. If a transfer student would like to major in animal science (pre-vet), applied economics, pre-agriculture and food business management, food science, or nutrition, he or she must complete specific requirements detailed here: [Transfer</a> Admission Requirements : College of Food, Agricultural and Natural Resource Sciences : University of Minnesota](<a href=“http://www.cfans.umn.edu/UndergraduateStudents/FutureTransferStudents/TransferAdmissionRequirements/index.htm]Transfer”>http://www.cfans.umn.edu/UndergraduateStudents/FutureTransferStudents/TransferAdmissionRequirements/index.htm).</p>

<p>Hope that helps. It can sometimes be a confusing system, but if your daughter does find that she wants to transfer colleges during her undergrad, it’s best for her to talk to her academic adviser and stay well informed of the requirements and deadlines.</p>

<p>I also might add that as a transfer student into CFANS, I was also initially scared away by the “farmer” stereotype of the college. However, now that I’m taking CFANS specific coursework, I’ve realized that there are far fewer students with backgrounds in farming than I had anticipated. I’ve met loads of students from the suburbs and cities who are completing degrees in majors like applied economics, nutrition, environmental science, and recreational resource management just to name a few. I guess I try to encourage anyone who is looking at CFANS to put the “farmer” thing aside and keep an open mind!</p>

<p>Thank you MKrause2009. Great information. As mentioned in a post in another thread, D was accepted today in CLA and wait listed in CBS. She’s just happy she’s “in”. I guess we can figure things out as we go. We did notice a lot of overlap in the coursework as you describe as well. We’ll have to check out the CLA information more carefully now. She was looking forward to the summer CBS program. I don’t know if CLA has anything similar for incoming freshmen. </p>

<p>And, we will keep an open mind on CFANS. There are a lot of opportunities at the U which is great. </p>

<p>Thanks again -</p>

<p>For the admission year 2010, about 6200 applications were received for the College of Biological Sciences, University of Minnesota. Out of those 6200 applicants 400 were offered admission, a admission rate of 6.45%.</p>

<p>If you get into Johns Hopkins or Northwestern, go there. Nothing at the U of M is anywhere close to anything Johns Hopkins and Northwestern offer.</p>