University of the Pacific - hell hole

<p>I'm just about through getting my daughter safely through this awful place, but it hasn't been easy and I would never subject another child to Stockton, California.</p>

<p>I visited last summer and adored the campus. The campus itself seemed very safe…like any other college in a big city (ie, UCLA, USC…there are aspects of the big city that intervenes and may make it more complicated for a student.</p>

<p>But hellhole…really?</p>

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<p>Could you give us a combination of search terms that would put your link at the top of a Google search? Just sayin’ …</p>

<p>FWIW - I know several people with kids at that U, and I have never heard them referring to it as “hellhole”.</p>

<p>I’ve never visited UofP but I recommend in general when visiting a college campus one also visit and pay attention to the nearby surrounding area and imagine what it’d be like if they move to off-campus housing, where’d they go for restaurants, movies, activities like biking, hiking, cycling, etc. Safety should always be a consideration and people need to realize the student is very unlikely to spend all their time on-campus.</p>

<p>Sorry your kid was so unhappy there. I know one who got her PharmD there, another who is pursuing hers there & one who got his RN there. None raved about it, but not said awful things about it either. Probably a lot depends on an individual’s perspective.</p>

<p>OP-Could you be specific about what you dislike about this school?</p>

<p>I’m not a fan of UPacific, but I think it’s a good place for students who are interested in professional training. The Pharmacy School was mentioned by a prior poster … that would be a good example. Stockton isn’t the nicest place. When we toured (in February) there was a strong aroma of agricultural chemicals. YMMV.</p>

<p>My cousin loved UOP. Is Stockton a rough city, yes, is UOP a “hellhole” hardly.</p>

<p>I interviewed for a job there. I was the only non-black perosn on the bus. When I toured the law firm, the only non-white person there (an African-American male) begged me to give their firm serious consideration so he would no longer be their only “token.” </p>

<p>The folks I know who attended UoP ended up spending as much time as they could driving away from their school & city; they saw a LOT of the rest of CA in their years at UoP. ;)</p>

<p>m just about through getting my daughter safely through this awful place</p>

<p>So I am wondering did they visit first before D attended?
What is actually present that was not present at that time?</p>

<p>err…there are other schools in rougher areas of cities…how about USC?
I attended UOP for undergrad (many yrs ago, true) and NEVER had any crime incident or worry of that nature. The school and campus are delightful for undergrad.</p>

<p>* rr…there are other schools in rougher areas of cities…how about USC?*</p>

<p>Thats what I was thinking- that perhaps it was a perceptual issue depending on their past exposure to city life.
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<p>When my oldest was entering as a freshman in college, her sister was 11 years old, and the mother of one of her friends was viciously tied up and stabbed to death in her home while her daughter was at before school music practice.
This was in a very family oriented, quiet neighborhood in a fairly white bread city.
It has been eight years and no arrests have ever been made.</p>

<p>But is it going to make me move?
No.
I even sent my D2 to a high school in the " inner’ city which I would have been afraid to visit thirty years ago.</p>

<p>I grew up in a suburb of Seattle that was " crime" free, and considered very desirable.
Weekly while walking to elementary school two blocks away, children were assaulted by a man sitting in his car with the door open and fondling himself.
I was raped while walking home from my high school seven blocks away.
Those things happen everywhere.
In fact I was assaulted /harrassed more while living in the suburbs, with fewer people around than I have ever been since I moved to the city!</p>

<p>You can’t just make a statement like " Stockton is a hellhole" and not back it up- this isn’t selling cereal on tv.</p>

<p>I visited UoP in 10th grade for a school trip…I thought the campus was beautiful. The city of Stockton isn’t THAT bad, and it’s close enough to other major cities to be just fine. Makes me wonder also if there wasn’t a visit prior to attending.</p>

<p>Also, if she hated it that much, why not just transfer???</p>

<p>I always wonder about a first-time poster who makes an extremely negative statement about a school without providing any context and then just disappears. Seems fishy…</p>

<p>The OP sounds like a ■■■■■.</p>

<p>I don’t know about hellhole, but they have a really good six-year law program. But their financial aid is lacking (I got their “most prestigious” merit scholarship…6500/year) and Stockton is pretty terrible…I heard it was voted one of the ten unhappiest places to live a couple years back.</p>

<p>The OP must have issues, as they like to say. UoP’s campus is beautiful. The faculty may not all be NAS members, but they care and are accessible. Sure, Stockton ain’t much to write home about, but Pacific is worth a look.</p>

<p>My daughter was accepted to UOP into Exercise Science-Sports Medicine with a $10,000 a year Regent’s Scholarship for fall of 2010, however that only puts a dent in the total cost of attending. Aside from that, she voiced that she doesn’t really want to be in Stockton for 4 years…NOT because of crime, etc… but more because it just isn’t the type of “college town” she’s looking for, particularly without a car. </p>

<p>We visited this past fall and it’s an absolutely gorgeous campus. She definitely liked the “look”. Fairly compact. It really does look like it belongs in a New England setting with the brick and ivy and green lawns, trees, etc. And, the people in admissions were so personable. It’s a small school, so that’s easier done.</p>

<p>I know grown kids who went to UOP and just LOVED their experience there. Albeit, they went in the '90s. I also know a pharmacist friend who attended in the '70s and had good things to say about it. The biggest issue was the stifling HEAT in the summer.</p>

<p>Kind of the way my son felt about University of Redlands, looks like an east coast school but in Redlands and after seeing the campus, he would not even take the trip up to U of P (or Fresno Pacific) because of the location of the schools.</p>

<p>It’s funny how that works. I know she would love to take the CAMPUS of Pacific and plop it down where the buildings of Cal Poly are now sitting. :slight_smile: She was accepted there, as well. She just can’t have it all! :wink: She might not admit it, but she knows that CPSLO is a much better match for her, regardless of the way it looks. The town and location are obviously several steps up from the Stockton-Tracy area for a college student, in particular.</p>

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<p>SockerMom wrote:</p>

<p>Kind of the way my son felt about University of Redlands, looks like an east coast school but in Redlands and after seeing the campus, he would not even take the trip up to U of P (or Fresno Pacific) because of the location of the schools</p>