University of Warwick (PPE) vs Trinity College Dublin (PPES) vs University of Toronto

<p>I need help to choose between the University of Warwick (PPE), the university of Trinity College Dublin (PPES) and the University of Toronto...</p>

<p>In your opinion which one is the best? Which one has the best reputation in the in the United States/ UK?</p>

<p>Which school gives me the best opportunities to get into an Ivy league or LSE, Oxfbridge for graduate?</p>

<p>All answers are welcome...</p>

<p>Thank you for your help</p>

<p>Trinity and Toronto are the better universities but Warwick is good too, all three will give you a good shot at the LSE, Oxbridge and Ivy for grad school (providing you do well academically of course). </p>

<p>Will you be comfortable living in all three locations? Dublin is tiny compared to Toronto and Warwick is a self contained campus in the middle of nowhere. Can you afford all three? Living in Dublin is more expensive than living in London or New York. Are you prepared for the differences in the education system? Toronto will be very different to Dublin and Warwick, in Ireland and the UK you will be expected to do far more independent study.</p>

<p>Your choices are all of a similar calibre Warwick and Trinity College have the best reputation in the UK, largely because no one has heard of the University of Toronto.</p>

<p>They will all give you a good shot at the Ivy’s and Oxbridge/LSE for post graduate provided that you do well on your degree.</p>

<p>Decide which course you prefer, and where you’d prefer to live.</p>

<p>Thank you for your answers… </p>

<p>I really don’t know what to do…</p>

<p>What makes you think that warwick is under Trinity College Dublin or Toronto?</p>

<p>Trinity being in Ireland I really don’t know how to compare it to the universities end the UK… Do you think it has more the level of UCL / edinburgh / Saint andrew??? Do you think it is under?</p>

<p>Do you think University of Toronto has the level of the UC’s or more the level of duke/ John hopkins or Carnegie Mellon?</p>

<p>I would be extremly graceful to know which reputation those three universities have respectively in the UK and in the US .</p>

<p>Thank you for yor help.</p>

<p>Warwick all the way. Trust me. It has an incredible reputation, anyone tells you otherwise doesn’t know what they’re talking about.</p>

<p>Source: Domestic student - me.</p>

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<p>But doesn’t that somewhat defeat the point of a reputation? Warwick is unheard of in the US.</p>

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<p>The question did also include the reputation in the UK. St Andrews’s rep seem very inflated on these boards. By large, Warwick has greater international reputation, putting aside North America esp in Europe and Asia. The majority of UK universities aren’t popular to the average US employer in all honesty, but other nations are more accomodating.</p>

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SpawnofDescartes has a very good point. Economics wise Warwick is incredibly competitive - it’s more competitive than Oxbridge for some subjects. Warwick is about the 5th best in the country for economics which believe me is better than it sounds, considering. That’s only behind LSE, Oxbridge and UCL. PPE wise I’m not so sure but on the econ side… ^</p>

<p>Warwick easily has the best reputation in the UK. By a country mile. Employers will snap you up.</p>

<p>What do you plan to do after your degree thats the most important question</p>

<p>Rightfully so, University of Toronto has the strongest reputation in America especially in Academia, , Warwick and TCD are not even close. So if you wanna do a PhD at the really top intuitions later on it would be a big mistake to take Warwick.</p>

<p>What is your citizenship? Canada has a very liberal work permit process while the UK is tightening their process and making it more difficult. You are more likely to get hired from a Canadian university in the US than the UK.</p>

<p>Now if you wanna do the most productive thing and make money, i.e. get an MBA Warwick would be a better option because it feeds more into finance and consulting roles and I think the UK market has more of these firms than say Canada. As an International student these would be your best bets for getting like a work permit in the UK since you are not studying engineering. North American employers rarely if ever straight off hire UK grads there is no reason to.</p>

<p>So in short whats your plan?</p>

<p>Thank you again for your help…</p>

<p>So clearly, does warwick have a strongest reputation in the UK than TCD?</p>

<p>I am french and I live in the US.</p>

<p>I want to do a master and a phd in the very best schools, I don’t really care about the work opportunities for the moment… What I really want is to have the best shot possible to get into an Ivy, oxfbridge, LSE, Berkeley.</p>

<p>Do you think Utoronto really has a stronger reputation than TCD and Warwick in the US?</p>

<p>Britain and America are both very insular. It’s highly unlikely that someone in the UK or America will have heard much about TCD, or that someone in the US will have heard much about Warwick.</p>

<p>Someone in the UK will probably prefer Warwick based purely on familiarity, and the same for someone in the US and Toronto.</p>

<p>Advise Go to Warwick . . . the UK has a stronger service industry than Canada and Ireland. You would have better job prospects. International Reputation that most people talk about is a very nebulous term you should focus on what you can do in the domestic market of the school and then from that how use experiences you gain in your school to lateral to say to America. </p>

<p>You can go to Warwick, get a first and then go and do a masters at oxbridge and then try and apply for a PhD in the US or stay in the UK and get a PhD. I would be honest I have never come across someone who did their undergrad at Warwick in a top PhD everyone I know from the UK is from Oxford, Cambridge and Imperial. But thats probably because Warwick is not really an academic school like Oxbridge/Imperial (academic meaning that more people want to go into academia as opposed to joining teh work force).</p>

<p>University of Toronto has more students who get into top grad school in the US but that could be a function of more Canadians applying to the US apart from the fact that Toronto is very academic- If you are a good student you will get a good education there. Also its a massive university and is not that selective. Very few British students apply for grad school in the US because of 5 years PhD while its the same timeline in Canada (5 or more). </p>

<p>If you decide to do the smart thing hehe and get a job which Warwick will give you good options. You can get into a top job in the UK and get your employer to transfer you to the US. Your options are much more limited with the other two schools. The job prospects from University of Toronto though are not that great although its an excellent research institution. Also don’t forget that people from universities all over the world get into top graduate schools- its really not where you go to but what you do there.</p>

<p>You might say you dont want to work but down the line things might change.</p>

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<p>What the hell is a “top PhD” sefago? I thought you were a graduate student, you should know that PhD’s aren’t professional degrees; the department and ones supervisor is what matters - the name of the university matters very little.</p>

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<p>I don’t think you understand what a PhD is; there are no best schools. You shouldn’t be basing this decision on future postgraduate prospects. You might loathe the idea of doing a PhD by the time you graduate. It does not matter where you study, they’re all good universities and you won’t be closing any doors by picking one over the other, no matter what some people here tell you.</p>

<p>What you say is much less true in the USA, Dionysus58. Because American phd programmes tend to be much longer with MAs tagged on the front, there are much better and much worse programmes, since students will enter likely not not knowing what they will specialise in.</p>

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<p>Top PhD means top department. Supervisor matters more in the UK/Europe than US and also based on someones goals if to directly enter academia versus industry.</p>

<p>The OP assumes that all the best departments in his field are in the universities he mentioned which is a wrong assumption. However, the OP is still young and so this should be expected.</p>

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<p>Research programs/departments in are typically ranked based on reputation which is coded based on research productivity and citation impact. Good programs have good researchers who are productive and have research that have significant impact in academia. </p>

<p>No one cares about the MA/MS or about the structure of the program- most rankings are departmentwise so when I mean a top PhD program it is synonymous with a top department.</p>