<p>^You have a lot of time on your hands…</p>
<p>Conell carries more prestige and better reputation than Penn.</p>
<p>Those rankings were carried out almost 20 years ago, in a time where Penn and Cornell where truly equal. Not anymore.</p>
<p>As much as i hate to do this. The arrogance of some of you Penn students have forced me to publish this. The U.S news posted the best universities in the world on February 5, 2010. Penn is ranked 12 in the world and Cornell 15. however, the world rankings had five categories of majors where these scools are ranked. The results is the following</p>
<p>Arts and Humanities- Cornell 15 and Penn 35
Engineering- Cornell 24 and Penn 87
Biomedicine- Cornell 26 and Penn 39
Natural and physical Science- Cornell 15 and Penn 69
Social Science- Cornell 18 and Penn 24</p>
<p>Cornell beats penn in every single category listed. The reason why Penn may be the 12 ranked in the world, and Cornell 15 ranked in the world, may be due to Wharton. if Wharton is out of the equation Cornell beats penn in every aspect.</p>
<p>The link is below.</p>
<p>[World’s</a> Best Universities: Top 400 - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-universities/2010/02/25/worlds-best-universities-top-400.html]World’s”>http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-universities/2010/02/25/worlds-best-universities-top-400.html)</p>
<p>For those of you that have been following my posts, you really know how I feel about the entire argument on who is more prestigious, i’m stepping down to the level of the foolish ones right now.</p>
<p>also if you look further into the employer review score, both Penn and Cornell gets a 99%. so the argument on what college have better prestige in the job market is hogwash.</p>
<p>also for the girl that stated that penn is more prestigious in India than cornell, can you please explain why cornell have a better score for the quality of international student? No you wont be able to explain that. enough said.</p>
<p>if you nay sayers refute the world best universities rankings, then you must refute the national rankings also. because after all, they are both from U.S News.</p>
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Don’t assume that all of these anti-Cornell posters are Penn students. One (Scotchtape) is a Dartmouth student, and others are overzealous high school students who have just completed the college admissions process.</p>
<p>Both Penn and Cornell are fantastic schools with varying relative strengths and weaknesses. In general, anyone choosing between these two–or among any of the top schools–should go with personal fit, and then make every effort to take advantage of the incredible opportunities that any of these schools has to offer.</p>
<p>@45 percenter, you have a very valid point. In reality both these schools are really great schools, I dont understand on why so many are so obsessed with which one is better, they both have strenghts and weaknesses to each other.</p>
<p>Wharton students refute US News rankings, after their MBA program ranked #5, below Northwestern.</p>
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<p>Why are you being so rude? Others have refuted your false assertion, but I will just add that Britain’s THES-QS World Rankings, Shanghai Jiao Tong University’s World Rankings, and USNWR World Rankings all put Cornell in the top 15 globally. So, clearly there is a general consensus, even with all the issues with ranking one’s education.</p>
<p>There seems to be an extraordinary amount of hostility toward Cornell from Penn and Duke. Perhaps it’s because both schools have risen precipitously in recent decades and are still trying to define their place in the hierarchy of academic prestige. Being able to discredit and push down a school they feel they can surmount gives such boosters a stronger sense of their place in things.</p>
<p>But, in the end, parsing schools at this level is silly. Why is it so hard to simply accept that they’re both wonderful institutions with different strengths? I don’t know of anybody in the real world who draws any distinction in quality, unless one speaks of specific programs at which one or the other might excel.</p>
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<p>As it turns out, there is this little subcontinent called south of what you consider Asia (let’s call it “South Asia.” Would you believe that it has little in common with Asia? In fact the people don’t look Asian. They look like white people, but with brown skin (amazing, no?). And apparently they have much better English skills than Asia.</p>
<p>I’ve spent 2 years here and one reason I quite like it is because Penn here is not only more well-known than Cornell, it’s more well-known than Princeton. Penn is home to CASI (the Center for Advanced Study of India) and its great number of “pre-professional” programs are particularly appealing to a country that, in the process of developing itself, has a bottomless demand for businesspeople and engineers.</p>
<p>Prestige-wise it’s a draw but Penn has a better econ department.</p>
<p>Bottom line: Penn wins when it comes to prestige in economics, as nobody disputes the power of Wharton (except gugupo, but he/she/it doesn’t count).</p>
<p>And with that in mind, it really doesn’t matter to me (or people primarily interested in pursuing economics) if Cornell wins in engineering, physical sciences, etc. Both schools obviously provide a strong liberal arts education (even Wharton students can take a lot of their classes in CAS), but Wharton definitely has a serious edge. It’s no surprise that even in a troubled economy, over 80% of the Wharton (undergraduate) Class of 2009 found work.</p>
<p>^ Don’t conflate Penn’s Economics department, which is in the School of Arts and Sciences, with Wharton. While it certainly can be advantageous to an Economics major to have access to Wharton courses (Finance, etc.), it is Penn’s liberal-arts-based Economics department, on its own merits separate and apart from Wharton, that is generally ranked among the top 10 or so in the nation. And don’t be misled by Wharton undergrad’s B.S. in Economics degree–it is NOT an Economics program. To be an Economics major, you have to be in the College of Arts and Sciences.</p>
<p>Interesting bit of historical Penn trivia: it used to be possible to pursue a traditional Economics major in Wharton, even after the Economics department was moved from Wharton to the Faculty of Arts and Sciences–now SCHOOL of Arts and Sciences–in the 1970s. That’s no longer the case.</p>
<p>Don’t worry, I understand the difference, and I’m happier with the program I’ll be doing than with a traditional major based on economic theory.</p>
<p>But if I had applied to CAS instead, I would be really happy that I can get some exposure to finance, marketing, etc.</p>
<p>^ Of course, you could always pursue dual degrees: BS in Economics from Wharton and BA with an Economics major (or other liberal arts major) from the College. That’s the beauty of Penn! :)</p>
<p>Why do they call the Wharton undergrad degree a B.S. in Economics?</p>
<p>Penn’s Economics department has been consistently regarded as stronger than Cornell’s by a variety of rankings and measures. And anyone who is going to claim that this is because of Wharton and that with Wharton this wouldn’t be the case clearly has no idea what he’s talking about.</p>
<p>India seems to have some slightly inflated regard for Penn, I’ve noticed this as well. I wouldn’t put this out onto the rest of the world or the US for that matter. The truth is a great majority of even Internationals are going to stay in the US after school and that is much more important. Equally important is that in the US, different than the research university International system, overall undergrad prestige matters much much more than departmental prestige in most cases. No finance firm is going to care about the rank of an econ dept for example.</p>
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Anyone who bases his or her ranking of BSchools on USNWR obviously knows nothing about business.</p>
<p>Exactly, gugupo doesn’t know anything, don’t mind him.</p>