UPenn Freshman Commits Suicide

<p>UPenn</a> shocked as freshman track star Madison Holleran, 19, jumps to her death | Mail Online
Did you guys hear about this? The fact that this girl refused to transfer despite how unhappy she was under the strain of UPenn's rigorous courses says a lot about how deluded our culture is when it comes to choosing colleges. This poor girl probably felt pressured to stay there just because of the prestige, when she really should have chosen a school where she could have felt both successful and content.
My condolences go out to her family and friends.</p>

<p>Another reason for holding athletic recruits to the same academic standards as everybody else?</p>

<p>She had a 3.5 at the end of her first semester. In any objective sense, she was both qualified and successful.</p>

<p>Yeah, read the article afterwards. Not understanding why she didn’t transfer or why she was triple majoring.</p>

<p>She was clearly troubled. There were many warning signs that she was not happy and pressured.</p>

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<p>Not gonna beat around the bush, that was an ass hole thing to say, CSIHSIS. If someone is suicidal, they have more important things to deal with, like, ya know , their life. Which is, maybe not to you but to most reasonable people, more important than letters on a piece of paper. </p>

<p>I feel so sad to hear the terrible news. It’s especially shocking because, at least on the outside, she looks like someone who has it all (looks, brains, friends, etc) and would probably be the last person anyone would have suspected of carrying suicidal thoughts. </p>

<p>I can’t even begin to imagine how her family must be feeling right now. Holleran family, if you ever read this, just know that you are in my thoughts and my heart goes out to you.</p>

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<p>I agree with honors. That statement was uncalled for! My condolences to her family. They must be in agony right now. Godbless them.</p>

<p>Yeah, I’ve heard of this.</p>

<p>In defense of CSIHSIS, those circumstances are virtually always stressful, and foreseeably so.</p>

<p>While I’m becoming hated in this thread, I may as well mention that I wish the catastrophic events and deaths weren’t always at other schools. I want to feel special, too.</p>

<p>So sad. I’ve been to that place and still go there sometimes, so I know what its like. Just because she had looks and friends it doesn’t mean you can’t feel empty. She was likely troubled beyond her courses and stress and just never told anyone, lots of people who SEEM like they have it all feel like killing themselves. In fact I think the suicide statistics are higher for privileged teens and young adults for some reason.</p>

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<p>So you’re saying you wish something catastrophic would happen at your school so you can feel “special” too?</p>

<p>I really hope you are still in middle school and not an actual college (or even high school) student.</p>

<p>As someone who went to school with Madison and has known too many people who have died young, I can tell you that you should never wish that this sort of thing will happen. It’s really devastating looking at pictures from elementary school and realizing that someone you thought would live a life filled with joy is gone forever just as they were beginning to to enter their prime.</p>

<p>As for Madison’s situation, stress is only at the tip of the iceberg. She was most likely suffering from severe mental illness that was made worse by academic pressure and being away from home for the first time. It is a very common age for mental illness to develop in one’s late teens and early twenties. It was also probably a lot harder to detect since she was away from home. Her parents did everything they could in this situation, no one would have ever predicted this could have happen. It’s truly horrible and unfair.</p>

<p>She was not “triple majoring”. A major at Penn is called PPE - Philosophy, Politics, Economics.</p>

<p>So sorry to hear about this tragedy.</p>

<p>Wow that’s really sad. It’s really unfortunate that an obviously smart and accomplished student would feel so desperate as to take her own life, when she probably had SO MUCH going for her. Having dealt with a suicide in my family, I wish people with strongly suicidal thoughts would realize that it’s never too late to get help and make things better. Literally everyone I know who attempted or considered suicide is thankful that their plans didn’t go through because things always eventually gets better. I mean once you’re at your absolute lowest, there’s no where to go but up…</p>

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<p>You want your classmates to commit suicide so that you can feel special?</p>

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<p>I had to read your post several times to make sure I understood what you were saying, because it was hard for me to believe that anyone thinks like this.
Are you a ****ing sociopath??? You want a tragedy to happen at your school so that you have the chance for a little media attention?</p>

<p>The poster who said that just wants attention. For whatever reason, this generally reflects the lack of attention the poster receives in their own life, they have decided to be insensitive and inappropriate. My thoughts is the poster simt isn’t that bright. Their plan to be “special” could be a lot more efficient. Cut out the middle man. The poster will feel plenty “special”.</p>

<p>Despite what many people of the USA believe, education is NOT the most important thing in life-- health is. It’s a shame that so many people are so blinded by grades and work.</p>

<p>In my honest opinion, while I do feel bad for her, I honestly can’t seem to find one reason she should be unhappy based on the article. She is clearly a smart, athletic, and talented student. She attends one of the most prestigious colleges in the country, is a varsity athlete, has a very supportive family, and achieved a 3.5 GPA her first semester. Do you realize how many people would love to be in her position? She isn’t poor, physical illed, abused, or academically unprivileged in anyway. The fact that she gave herself up because of “stress” makes me question how she even got into UPenn or even how she is majoring in “philosophy.” Either the article is hiding something or she was just a very unappreciative student or she just clearly hadn’t live a life outside the real world before.</p>

<p>I’m sorry, happyramen, but you understand nothing about clinical depression, which is not mere “unhappiness” and has little to do with the objective circumstances of one’s life. I suggest you do some research on the subject before judging this poor girl. </p>

<p>Good response, MommaJ! I was going to say the say thing, but in a much harsher way. :stuck_out_tongue: </p>