<p>Hey soo... I'm new to this, so if I'm in the wrong forum, sorry in advance. I have a good but difficult decision to make soon, and I would like to hear other peoples input on it. </p>
<p>I have just been accepted into upenn's nursing and healthcare management dual degree program and georgetown's NHS my emphasis in healthcare management and policy. </p>
<p>If I went to gtown, id probably study policy and apply to the law school for graduate degree </p>
<p>If I went to Upenn, I would most likely be studying for five years to become a healthcare consultant or banking investment. </p>
<p>Please give any input on the school strength, social life, type of people, and anything else you would like to chime in on</p>
<p>It depends which field you are better suited for. If you want to go to law school and be a lawyer then go to Gtown, if you want to do banking or healthcare then Upenn is your best bet,</p>
<p>If you’re into socializing and partying then UPenn is going to be better for that. Its known as the social ivy, I personally would choose it over Georgetown but ultimately it comes down to what you want to study.</p>
<p>At penn, I would have to attend for five years. Since it’s only an undergraduate degree would I have to return for my MBA. I guess what I’m trying to ask, is how much does a wharton undergraduate degree actually help in the real world.</p>
<p>I’m currently in the NHCM program. You will find that most people at Wharton do not go back for their MBA because the last two years of their undergraduate studies overlaps with what Wharton graduates are doing given an undergrad’s declared concentration. If you happen to have any more questions feel free to PM me.</p>
<p>2) you should figure out what you want to do and attend the school that will get you there. Why the different careers for the different schools? </p>
<p>3) Visit each school. See if you like D.C. or Philly better. See which campus you like better.</p>
<p>4) Which is going to cost more. Penn is likely going to cost more. Is it worth the extra money to attend a prestigious Ivy? Are you okay spending less for a Big East school?</p>
<p>These are the questions you need to answer. Either way, these are both great schools.</p>
<p>A BS in nursing isn’t going to get you much unless you also work as nurse, so unless you want to do that, I don’t see the value in the dual degree. An experienced nurse with a business background has lots of options, but if patient care isn’t your thing (and it doesn’t sound like it is) I’d go with Georgetown.</p>
<p>Great nursing programs, both. DW grad’d GU and worked in management at CHOP and HUP. Nursing has allowed her to do so much with her life that other majors do not, it’s just amazing. She’s always been in touch with the clinical component but has worked as an NP, clinical educator, nurse manager, clinical researcher, bench researcher, director of nursing research, all over the country. She has a couple advanced degrees and alphabet soup after her name. She’s had a really fulfilling career, and her peers in nursing frequently come from GU and UPenn as it turns out. They must be doing something right there. Hospital nursing is a tremendously demanding labor and I have great respect for men and women who can do that year after year, but there are so many other opportunities besides the increasingly draining, intense shift work that hospital nursing has been. I would suggest you plan on getting some clinical practice when you graduate because it will add credibility if you ever want to work with nurses in the future.</p>
<p>@qialah, if I went to upenn, Id like to think of myself as a wharton gradwith hands on clinical experience to help with ib and consulting. Does anybody think the nursing degree would help when consulting for healthcare companies?</p>
<p>sorry for co-opting your question, qialah: having some idea of how business decisions have an impact on healthcare delivery at the point of contact with the consumer might prove very helpful. Nurses have a real sense of being-one-of-us, and doctors aren’t part of that club. I’d call it a guild but nurses just aren’t as careful to protect themselves and their rights as guild members were. If you want to learn how hospitals work or don’t work at the patient level, and many people do not want to and have not ever bothered with this, no one knows better than nurses. Consultants have to be authentic to have greatest credibility. It could be a boon to your career to have clinical experience. For too long hospitals have ignored nursing input at the upper management level. This could be a good opportunity for you to offer healthcare companies a non-medical perspective.</p>
<p>No. It definitely gives you the competitive edge. My mentor in the program currently consults for the Boston Consulting Group. If you have any more questions about NHCM feel free to shoot me a message! I’m currently in the program!</p>
<p>I work for a healthcare organization. As I said, an RN with business background has lots of options. However, all of the ones I know of spent time in patient care. The value they bring is to be able to analyze how nursing really works via the tools they learned in business school. I stand by my opinion that I don’t think it’s worth spending the extra time and money to get an RN if you don’t want to actually work as a nurse, at least for a period. I know plenty of non-clinical people who have been extremely sucessfuly in health care consulting and hospital administration. </p>
<p>The Wharton Undergraduate Class of 2013 Career Placement Survey reports the following employers/jobs for 2013 graduates of this program:</p>
<p>Wharton and Nursing
Healthcare Management and Policy \ Nursing</p>
<p>Boston Consulting Group, Associate: Summit, NJ
Deloitte Consulting, Analyst: New York, NY
Houlihan Lokey, Analyst: New York, NY
Stanford Hospital & Clinics, Clinical Nurse: Palo Alto, CA
ZS Associates, Business Associate: Princeton, NJ</p>