UPitt Pharmacy vs. Rutgers Pharmacy

<p>My D was accepted into Rutgers and UPitt Pharmacy programs. She loves UPitt campus, but Rutgers Pharmacy program. Any thoughts?</p>

<p>Pitt [is</a> ranked higher in Pharmacy](<a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-health-schools/pharmacy-rankings]is”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-health-schools/pharmacy-rankings).</p>

<p>My son is a Freshman in pre-Pharmacy at Pitt. My next door neighbor’s daughter is a sophomore at Rutgers in pre-Pharmacy. Each loves where they are, and I think you can’t go wrong with either. What are your reservations about the Pitt Pharmacy program? Another thing to think about is getting there and back for vacations/breaks. We live near Rochester NY and it’s a haul and a lot of traffic going to NJ. Pitt has buses home for vacations to several cities. It was wonderful to pick our son up 20 minutes away instead of driving 10 hours round trip to pick him up and then again to take him back for Thanksgiving.</p>

<p>What are the costs of each? If you’re in-state for one or the other, that would certain weigh in on the decision. Also, which college does your daughter like better generally? Just in case your daughter switches out of pharmacy for any reason, it would be good to have her at a university with other options for her so she doesn’t have to transfer.</p>

<p>Im unsure about Pitt Pharm but at Rutgers if you get accepted into the Pharm school its a six year program with guarenteed admissions into the pharm school unlike many schools where you start off as pre pharm then have to apply later on with the chance that you will not get accepted.</p>

<p>I would tell your D to go wherever she can see herself spending the next six years… or wherever is cheaper. A pharmD is a pharmD is a pharmD. Everyone passes the same NAPLEX and gets the same degree (however, some schools teach to the NAPLEX, not to practice). Plus, rankings are not “official” and not sanctioned by the AACP: “AACP does not rank the institutions that provide pharmacy education in the United States, nor endorse any publication that ranks pharmacy degree programs.” - [AACP</a> - Admissions](<a href=“http://www.aacp.org/resources/student/pharmacyforyou/admissions/Pages/default.aspx]AACP”>Admissions | AACP) The rankings that you see may have some merit, but you should not decide where to go solely based on un-official rankings… and this is coming from someone that goes to the “#3 PharmD program in the nation.”</p>

<p>Other things to consider are if they have a good program for different specialties your D may be interested in (for example, I am really interested in MTM and my school founded and is paving the way for the spread of MTM services), connections in the area you D may want to work in, % job placement or residency matching, research, etc.</p>

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<p>The guaranteed Pitt Pharm program is the same way: 2 years of “undergrad” followed by 4 years of pharm school, graduating with a Pharm D diploma (I have a few friends in their second year). You can also apply into the program at the end of your sophomore year of undergrad if you didn’t have the guaranteed acceptance already (one of my friends did that). My friends in Pharm school love it at Pitt-- the societies are great, they hold events, attend conferences, get to do actual work at local pharmacies, etc.</p>

<p>FYI, there is no such thing as official rankings for any program in any field that I am aware of. They are all third party rankings by publications that have copy to sell and shareholders to please. Take them for what they are, a guide, but not an end all.</p>

<p>BTW, US News methodologies for any grad program are almost always just peer review surveys: "All the health rankings are based solely on the results of peer assessment surveys sent to deans, other administrators, and/or faculty at accredited degree programs or schools in each discipline. " Take that for what it is worth. Never make a decision solely based on rankings.</p>

<p>what stats did they have and what did they do to get aceepted ! plz respond, thabnks</p>

<p>Here’s the class profile of the latest class at the Pitt School of Pharmacy:
The statistical profile of the recent incoming class for fall 2011 (Class of 2015) exemplifies the high quality of students accepted into the Program and the competitive nature of our admissions process. It is no surprise that our students and student organizations are recognized for their active participation in university, community service, and professional programs at the local, state, and national levels.</p>

<p>Acceptance to our program is highly competitive. Here are some statistics about the Class of 2015 entered fall 2011:</p>

<p>692 Students applied</p>

<p>108 Students enrolled for fall 2011</p>

<p>45% Conditional Admission
55% Open Admission
66% Female

34% Male
73% Pennsylvania residents
27% Non-Pennsylvania residents
14% Non-Pitt Students (transferred)
16% previous degree
Average Overall GPA: 3.67 (overall GPA range from 3.0 to 4.0)
Average Science GPA: 3.55 (Science GPA range from 3.0 to 4.0)
Average PCAT Composite Score: 80%
Average age of incoming class: 21 (ages range from 19 to 31)</p>

<p>Based on <a href=“http://www.oafa.pitt.edu/pdf/infosheets/PHARMACY.pdf”>http://www.oafa.pitt.edu/pdf/infosheets/PHARMACY.pdf&lt;/a&gt;, U of Pitts pre-pharmacy students need to take PCat at end of second year which Rutgers 6 year pharmacy program does not need to take PCAT?</p>

<p>^^^^^^^^Pitt does require students in the Conditional Acceptance program to take the PCAT. However, there’s no minimum required score. </p>

<p>@helloworld Now that my son is P2 and our neighbors daughter is P3 I can give you some more insight. Again, both are great schools and you’ll do well with either one. If you look at size of school, Pitt is large, Rutgers is huge. Rutgers class size of their Pharmacy school is larger also. My son’s class is 114. He’s had the opportunity to travel to the national Pharmacist’s conference in Orlando last year, and the National Clinical Pharmacist’s conference in Austin this year. He met the National Pharmacists President and they hosted him at Pitt.
<a href=“APhA President Osterhaus Meets Students – ePittPharmacy”>http://www.pages.pharmacy.pitt.edu/epittpharmacy/2014/09/24/apha-president-osterhaus-at-pittphamacy/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>My son is focusing on Clinical Pharmacy and wants to do a residency for an advanced certification after PharmD. I’m not saying you can’t do these types of things at other schools, but I know they are available at Pitt. Since there are 3 hospitals right on campus there is a real atmosphere of Health related professions. </p>