<p>I am a student in a California community college. Like my username, I want to transfer to Haas...so desperately...I plan to transfer next fall.Now my GPA looks good but I am very concerned about calculus II( it is a pre-req of HAAS).
Well in summer 2012,I took Calculus II and found it was so daunting! I dropped it without a W, should I take it in this fall? I just afraid that I will do bad on Calculus II because I found those integration techniques are so hard to understand!!!!
If I take Calculus II in spring, will Haas deny me for putting such a core requirement in spring and they can not see the score?
I am so upset! When should I take Caluculus II aka Math 1B?</p>
<p>That depends on what grade you think you’re going to receive. If it’s an A or a B, then I’d say take it. If it’s a C, I might wait until Spring, as they will make your decision before the grade post.</p>
<p>Maybe you should self-study it in the fall and over winter break if you’re really disciplined. It’ll seem like a breeze during your spring semester.</p>
<p>The textbook used for Math 1B at UCB is “Calculus, Early Transcendentals, 7th Edition” by James Stewart. This text is used by many UCs and CSUs for students majoring in Math, Physical Sciences and Engineering so I would not be surprised if many CCCs use it as well. My older son who is a Geology major at Sacramento State used it for Calculus II and asked me for help with the chapter on Integration Techniques. What I noted was that while overall is a very good book, when writing this chapter Stewart seems to have forgotten what it is like to be a student who is being exposed to this material for the very first time and in the worked examples he skips many Algebra and Trigonometry steps that may be obvious to him but are not to most students while demonstrating the integration techinques. If that is the text you are using you may have to enlist the assistance of a tutor to go through that chapter with you and fill in the many intermediate steps that are just assumed in the examples.</p>
<p>If the Stewart book is still too much for you is it possible for you to take a less intense than IB and more like 16B at UCB and may be acceptable for Business majors?</p>
<p>To Lemaitre1 :
Oh yes…I use Stewart too… Yes it is a heavy good book…haha…
I took Math1A and got a solid A last semester at my CC…so I think I have to take 1B to maintain consistency…
I feel that 1B is much much harder than 1A… I think I am a math dummy for 1B! ;)</p>
<p>To CalDud,MeStudyStuff & LAforlife:
Thank you
Yes that’s why I am upset now…I am consider doing that in fall but i have so many classes in fall and i don’t know if i can handle them…
But I just feel that Haas will deny me for putting it in spring :(</p>
<p>wow really! I feel relaxed…a little bit…
I am actually a liberal art student so I am not math genius…It takes me a long time to do math…
What did you take for the fall and for the spring in your sophormore year before transferring?</p>
<p>To MeStudyStuff & larinaga:
Here’s my courses…
In fall 2012 I will be taking R1B+UGBA 10+microecon+History+journalism+politics (the last two are for UCLA Communications major …I use it as the back up for HAAS)
Should I take 1B too? I feel overwhelmed …
However you are right…I have a feeling that they do pay special attention on math score since there are so many superb students trying to apply for Haas…</p>
<p>There is no way to take those other course in the spring so you can focus on calc? It’s probably too late to make massive changes to your schedule now right?</p>
<p>If that is the case then spring will probably be better. Although finishing major prereqs earlier rather than later does look good it isn’t worth it if you KNOW you will get a lower grade. I know I was worried about forgetting a lot of the material that is why i did them one after the other so be careful of that and just make sure to go over the material before spring.</p>
<p>To MeStudyStuff:
Yes…maybe I will put math in spring…
I just have a feeling, if I become greedy about the fall schedule and try to devour all the pre-reqs…I might hurt my gpa and UC essays… that will be bad.
If I take it in fall it is ok…i have reserved a waitlist for Calc II. Maybe I can earn an A… ;)( but I swear it will be really strenuous. And when the Calc Midterm comes in November,I need to do the UC essays! )I took and dropped Calc II in summer and found it hard. Maybe the reason is summer course is harder? But I heard from others that teachers will cut of skip some chapters or contents for summer math class so it was generally easier?
But imagine a scenario, if You and your classmate XX are applying for Haas, and you have math and a breadth in philosophy in progress in spring whereas XX finished all his/her pre-req and breadths… Then XX will have a greater chance to go to Haas!</p>
<p>@ haasmylove, Chapters 1 through 6 in the Stewart text are detailed but relatively straight forward. It deals primarily with derivatives and finding derivatives of various types of functions and presents formulas for doing so. These include the product rule, chain rule, quotient rule to name a few. If you apply these rules carefully and diligently to any continuous function you can always find the derivative of any equation although be very tedious and time consuming. If you scrupiously apply the rules, are patient and hard working getting a good grade in Math1A is usually within reach of even those who do not normally have a good aptitude for Math.</p>
<p>In contrast, Chapters 7,8,9,10 and 11 contain what is by far the most difficult material in this book and as I mentioned earlier, the author only feels the need to show intermediate steps in example problems that involve Calculus and assumes the steps involving just Algebraic or Trigonometric manipulations require no explanation. Many students do well in Math 1A at Cal (Math 30 at Sacramento State) but then get Ds and Fs in Math 1B (Math 31 at Sac State) and I imagine there is a similar pattern found in the entire UC, CSU, CCC systems.</p>
<p>While there are things you struggled with, Integration Techniques, are difficult to understand and apply for many students they really only of limited help. They help you approach finding the integral of limited classes of functions but by no means finding integrals of all functions. There are no formulas or even integrating techniques which will allow you to find the integral of any function. Solving most integrals requires ingenuity, creativity, imagination and persistence. Many students do not encounter Math problems that call on these capabilities untill they reach Calculus II and the results are often pretty ugly. This course requires a much greater effort than Math 1A.</p>
<p>Taking Calc II in the spring will not hurt your chances if you’ve demonstrated a strong grade trend. The W won’t hurt you either since it was in the summer, you don’t even have to explain it if there isn’t a pattern of Ws. What did you get in Calc I? What about your other major pre-reqs? Will you also finish the breadth?</p>
<p>I took Calc II in my last spring and was accepted. You can pm me if you have any other transfer questions.</p>
Yes it is a heavy good book…haha…
