<p>Both are in or near a large city, have 5,000-10,000 students, and strong liberal arts programs. So both of them have the qualities I look for in a college.</p>
<p>"In or near a large city, have 5,000-10,000 students, and strong liberal arts programs."</p>
<p>I bet I could find a dozen schools like this. What makes these two special? To me, it would make more sense now to be seeing which characteristics these schools have that you DON'T like. That is, if you don't like a core, then you probably shouldn't be at Columbia, just like if you don't like a generally preprofessional student body, then you probably shouldn't be at Penn. These schools are really quite different, and if number of students, location, and strong liberal arts are really the selling points of these schools for you, then you may have a problem if you end up at one that really isn't socially or intellectually right for you.</p>
<p>koolmaria, I don't live on a reservation...in oklahoma, only the few, very poor live there as a result of land grants or something similar. I am just registered with my tribe and stuff..it's pretty common in oklahoma though</p>
<p>nat, apply to Cornell. We have a Native American residential learning community, Akwe:kon, and there are hardly any (reported) Native Americans on campus. </p>
<p>Koolmaria, I will probably double major in Government and Economics. I'm pre-law.</p>
<p>kk I am applying to all the schools that fit this criteria and will try and visit all the ones that I am accepted to. I am not restricting myself to just strong core or preprofessional, since I want both elements. Besides I am pretty sure there are preprof people at Chicago and people who love liberal arts at Penn. I don't like judging schools on what people say about the student body (example: "Chicago fun comes to die". I am pretty sure that there are people who love having fun at Chicago). For any blanket statement , there is a minority group. But thanks for the advice!</p>
<p>cool trackbabi Gov and Econ,
I also want to be pre-law and definitely major in History and something "practical" like English or maybe psychology. i have to shop around in college and see.</p>
<p>Yup I'm Yoruba.</p>
<p>I figured as much. Where you born here? You seem to have a lot of pride in your country, which is good. Kids who were born here tend to try and throw away their culture and deny it. Ex: my cousin refuses to eat garri and wear African attire because she says she was born here and doesn't want to associate herself with a backward place where people live in huts and run around naked. She has never been to Nigeria, but her parents are from there. It really annoys me when she says this stuff. Anyway went off on a tangent there but it's cool that you rep your hood.</p>
<p>does Pakistani count as URM? Ive heard somewhere it does.</p>
<p>I was born in Nigeria but lived there less than a month. For all intents and purposes, I'm American. I don't really like garri either so I guess I can empathize with your cousin. However, I do like some of the other Yoruba food. I think it's about finding the right balance between wearing the attire to school and totally denying your heritage. As for Pakistani counting as URMs, I can't be sure that they do but I <em>think</em> they are given a little tip factor. However, even though I pretty much know that people from Nigeria are considered URMs by colleges, I'm not so sure we need the tip factor. Most fellow Nigerians I know are very well educated. The only reason I think we might need some help is that most people look at us and consider us with the same stereotype they assign to all other black people and thus may not treat us as fairly. What do you guys think?</p>
<p>hi im half nigerian and half liberian</p>
<p>i feel ur pain</p>
<p>Dartmouth ED</p>
<p>ugggh Damn Nigeria!</p>
<p>I should Lynch their government....Oh well for all I know, Lagos is the sexiest Part :D</p>
<p>Nobody stereotypes me because I'm well-distiguished from others
I think if you associate yourself with the right people, you would be looked upon favorably rather than negatively. Thats what I think!</p>
<p>Everyone knows that Hausa>everyone (kidding)</p>
<p>Good luck everyone.</p>
<p>Who/What is a URM? </p>
<p>:s</p>
<p>lol are there any african americans here that ARENT 1st/2nd gen immigrants?</p>
<p>I'm not African or first/second generation.I'm more of an hint of everything :)</p>
<p>Fred, yeah I agree with So Authentic, if you distinguish yourself as a black person who cares about your education, then you do not fit the materialistic, ignorat, uneducated stereotype associated with black skin. I try to do this and so do my Nigerian and African American friends. Correct me if you see it differently, but many black people see Africans as money-hungry immigrants who steal their AA.</p>
<p>Tyler09, yeah there aren't really alot of native blacks her, so thanks for joining and bringing some diversity/different insight. Where are you applying?</p>
<p>airboard URM- under represented minority i.e. blacks, hispanics, and native americans.</p>
<p>bump....please</p>
<p>tyler09, i'm not first or second generation african american. I live in New Jersey but my mom's from south carolina (her family's been there since the days of slavery) and my dad's also born in nj but his family is from south carolina and alabama. so you know, from the south like most black families.</p>
<p>wow.hey guys i'm just joining this thread but i've been in school since the 15th! my schools are: Penn- Wharton, Emory, WashU, Columbia, Stanford, UMichigan..and then Yale/Princeton, UNC/Duke, UCLA/UC-Berkeley (1 out of the 2)..and safeties: UF, FSU-Honors, and Spelman. Um, lets see I was pre-med all the way before I did LEAD this summer and now I want to something in business. I'm very undecided though. I love golfing and shopping and running track.. Courses this year: AP Lang, AP US Govt, Yearbook-editor, Hon Calc, Apologetics (bible), AP Bio, Valencia (class at local comm. college- Intro. Sociology) which so far I loveeeeee, and then on Florida Virtual School- AP Macro and AP Micro...um thats about it.</p>
<p>oh i guess i'm a first generation african american..my parents are from the bahamas but I was born/raised in Florida</p>