<p>I'm sorry that a middle of the road team that is occassionally very good isn't good enough for you, when that puts them as a top 40-50 school purely as a football school, that isn't great, but it puts every other top 20 school to shame(better than Vandy normally, Stanford maybe).</p>
<p>That isn't a bad thing.</p>
<p>Vandy > NW for football.</p>
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No Michigan really does feed UM and focus there and only there. The 'smart kids' go to UM or MSU Honors. Very few have even heard of the Ivies outside HY.
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<p>So does Calif w/ UC, Virgina with UVa, Texas with UT, etc.</p>
<p>And really, I find it hard to believe that the "smart kids" in Mich. are that much more uneducated about their educational options than kids in other states - even if a lot of top Mich students do end up at UM, I would think that many do look into other schools.</p>
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Vandy > NW for football.
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<p>Thanks for the laugh!!</p>
<p>anybody else hoping to see amherst atop the lac list</p>
<p>k&s,</p>
<p>Laugh all you want, Vandy > NW and Stanford</p>
<p>Gator - This year yes, in general no.</p>
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<p>So does Calif w/ UC, Virgina with UVa, Texas with UT, etc.</p>
<p>And really, I find it hard to believe that the "smart kids" in Mich. are that much more uneducated about their educational options than kids in other states - even if a lot of top Mich students do end up at UM, I would think that many do look into other schools.
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<p>The UC's and UT are overwhelmed by the largess of the states which they provided for, causing less favoritism to one school. Virginia does have a lot of people focusing on the Virginia publics, however it is also nearer geographically(which is a large part of decisions as a whole) to the Ivies and other 'premier' school than Michigan.</p>
<p>Michigan represents itself well at Northwestern, but otherwise, kids are largely staying home.</p>
<p>Alright, here's my top 50 prediction:</p>
<ol>
<li><pre><code> Princeton University(NJ)
</code></pre></li>
<li><p>Harvard University(MA)</p></li>
<li><p>Yale University(CT)</p></li>
<li><p>University of Pennsylvania</p></li>
<li><p>Columbia University(NY)</p></li>
<li><p>Stanford University(CA)</p></li>
<li><p>California Institute of Technology</p></li>
<li><p>Massachusetts Inst. of Technology</p></li>
<li><p>Dartmouth College(NH)</p></li>
<li><pre><code>Duke University(NC)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>University of Chicago
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Cornell University(NY)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Brown University(RI)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Georgetown University(DC)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Carnegie Mellon University(PA)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>University of Notre Dame(IN)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Johns Hopkins University(MD)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Rice University(TX)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Vanderbilt University(TN)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Washington University in St. Louis
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Emory University(GA)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>University of California—Berkeley *
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Northwestern University(IL)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>U. of North Carolina—Chapel Hill *
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Univ. of California—Los Angeles *
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Univ. of Southern California
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>University of Virginia *
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Tufts University(MA)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Wake Forest University(NC)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Lehigh University(PA)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>New York University
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>University of Michigan—Ann Arbor *
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>College of William and Mary(VA) *
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code> Brandeis University(MA)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Case Western Reserve Univ.(OH)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Georgia Institute of Technology *
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>University of Pittsburgh *
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Univ. of California—San Diego *
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Univ. of Wisconsin—Madison *
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>University of Washington *
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Boston College
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>University of Rochester(NY)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Syracuse University(NY)
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>University of Texas—Austin *
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>Rutgers—New Brunswick(NJ) *
</code></pre></li>
<li><pre><code>University of Florida *
</code></pre></li>
<li><p>University of Connecticut *</p></li>
<li><p>George Washington University(DC)</p></li>
<li><pre><code>Pepperdine University(CA)
</code></pre></li>
<li><p>Univ. of Maryland—College Park *</p></li>
</ol>
<p>Bash it as much as you want, but that's how it's gonna be. Exactly.</p>
<p>Columbia at #5 and WashU at #19. Yep, that one's a fake. ;)</p>
<p>I don't care about any other school except UCLA and USC.
I really look forward to seeing any of the two schools beat each other cuz if UCLA wins, then I'll feel good about it (my school) and if USC wins, I'm immediately going over to their website to see a big bolded writing saying</p>
<p>"USC FINALLY AHEAD OF UCLA IN THE U.S. NEWSWEEK & WORLD REPORT NATIONAL UNIVERSITY RANKING!"
in their entrance page where the "Welcome to USC" writing should be.</p>
<p>it'll make me laugh.</p>
<p>The US News people would have a heart attack as they would think that they have been taken over by Newsweek.</p>
<p>LoL, Pat's prediction is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. It's okay; it gave me a good laugh.</p>
<p>I guess we'll just have to wait til August 17th to find out for real, won't we? ;)</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Wash U</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>RIce</li>
<li>JHU</li>
</ol>
<p>"I guess we'll just have to wait til August 17th to find out for real, won't we?"</p>
<p>Na, before that time someone will see the correct ranking and back it up with a camera phone pic of the page to verify it. until then, i dont believe any of the people who claim they have the rankings.</p>
<ol>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>everything else
.
.
.</li>
</ol>
<p>I demand to be #4 again.</p>
<p>Pat, scrolling down your list, I happened to notice your particular personal agenda against Northwestern and WashU. Perhaps it's the Midwest. Hmm.</p>
<p>At any rate, considering how Northwestern has never ranked below 14th and WashU below 20th in the last 15 years, I doubt any school could actually drop 8-9 spots in a year. Everyone's entitled to having hopes and dreams, but I'm afraid, not all of them can come true.</p>
<p>But other than that, though, I don't see how your top 20 is radically different from past year USNews rankings. The way I see it, these USNews rankings are kind of like the weight of a person who watches what he eats. Sure, you might slip and gain a couple pounds, but if you're actually watching what you eat, you're not going to gain 10 pounds just like that. These rankings can fluctutate by a few spots, but drastic changes are very unlikely to happen. No top 20 school will drop or rise 10 spots in a year.</p>
<p>I am a bit hurt that my school dropped two spots in your perception Pat, but I'll live, I guess, sigh.</p>
<p>USNWR list is too boring.</p>
<p>Read this one for more fun:</p>
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Pat, scrolling down your list, I happened to notice your particular personal agenda against Northwestern and WashU. Perhaps it's the Midwest. Hmm.
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<p>It's interesting to me a guy that went to PITT has such bias against two great schools in the midwest. Very interesting!</p>