What is your methodology, @Much2learn ?
Amazing. My ranking came true.
Anyone knows if endowment enters into ranking calculation? It lists Berkeley endowment at $380 millions, instead of reported $4.0 billion. Make you how these numbers are collected and used.
Kinda surprised that Wake Forest is tied with Michigan and Tufts… also, a huge drop for WashU, but it makes sense
STILL #16 in the South. Still behind App State and other schools we’re better than.
Mortal enemy school, albeit slightly, went up.
Unbelievable. @wayneandgarth was right, somebody give him a medal.
Here ya go: http://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings
WUSTL is known for gaming the rankings, so it’s no suprise they came back to reality a little. As per usual, the public flagships are underrated by U.S. News.
Does anyone actually believe Northeastern is a better school than Illinois, Wisconsin, UCSD, UT-Austin, and UWashington?
I actually prefer the college rankings at https://colleges.niche.com/rankings/best-colleges/
To me, they are far more accurate, especially in terms of qualifying and quantifying all of the aspects that eventually prove important to students once they are there in attendance.
For example, I attended JHU. I personally think that the Niche ranking at 39 is far more accurate than the US News ranking at 10. And now that I am a parent, evaluating my child’s experience at college and also experiencing all of the resources, communication, web presence, alumni networking, etc. that USC makes available, I find Niche’s ranking of USC (where my daughter attends) at 10 to be far more accurate that the US News rank of 23. USC is quite simply a well-oiled machine in terms of delivering all that a parent perceives to be important while also making the total college experience what the student wants too.
There is simply a lot more to the college experience overall than just ranking undergraduate majors or perceived reputations from afar. So… to this year’s applicants, choose wisely, look at the Niche rankings and survey results too… and above all – visit each finalist school in person before deciding.
Good luck…
@marvin100 “What is your methodology?”
I think that ultimately the real rankers are students who have the option to choose among the schools.
Here is what I see students do, on average, if they get to choose.
1 and 2: Harvard or Stanford.
3 thru 5: MIT, Princeton and Yale.
6-8: Penn, Columbia, Duke.
9: Chicago.
@WWWard if you saw how those were calculated, you’d think differently. Completely gamed, many admissions departments give incentives for students to submit positive reviews. The ranking system also doesn’t work generally - that’s how you end up with bizarre results like USC (a school that games rankings extremely hard incidentally) ending up with the same scores for academics and professors as Chicago, MIT, etc. which are obviously far above it.
Also that’s nuts @Much2learn, picking Duke or Penn over Chicago in anything except very specialized areas (business most notably) is pretty much unheard of now. Princeton and Yale are also firmly ahead of Stanford.
Sounds like you want a Yield Rank system, @Much2learn , or am I misunderstanding?
In academia at least, Chicago is seen as a step above Penn and Duke.
Anything that weighs perceived prestige into prestige rankings is entering Inception territory, really.
That’s tough, though, @dfdfb , since perceived prestige is a big part of branding and a very real factor for many applicants.
@lbad96 UNC wilmington? what school is that? pretty sure northeastern’s more known than that lmao :)) :)) :)) oxxoxoxoxoxoxox
I never knew Tulane and BostonU were better than UCSD and UC Davis. Also, how is UC Irvine better than UCSD and UC Davis? This makes no sense…
Someone please explain their methodology!
i just can’t. lmao.the amoutn fo salt in this thread
@Sounds like you want a Yield Rank system, @Much2learn , or am I misunderstanding?
Similar to yield, but different. I mean sort of an aggregate order that, on average, top students tend to pick in. So, if you asked 100 top applicants to list the top colleges in order of their preference, I think Harvard and Stanford would be the two that are most frequently listed first and second, etc.