<p>blue: I admire Michigan. I have in laws up that way. Its a fine school. I have a mild curiosity with rankings, that surfaces each time this year…and then it passes, I shrug and move on. But I deplore anyone (not you) who uses rankings to belittle someone or another institution. Colleges all serve a particular purpose in society, whether that is educating the uber elite kids with amazing stats, the URM’s, giving country kids a chance at big city life (i.e. NYU, Penn, UChicago B.U. or similar urban schools), or a religiously based school. To some degree, colleges grew up being schools for their local communities but that is really changing now as applications pour in from all four corners of the country and the globe. What is their mission? Even Tier 3 schools perform a highly valuable function in life. I would never denigrate any college. Sports is another matter, however! LOL.</p>
<p>Clemson’s about 5-6 hours from myrtle beach, they both are on opposite ends of the state</p>
<p>And I can assure you that low country South Carolina (eastern SC and beach areas) is vastly different than UpState South Carolina, with the great divide being around Columbia.</p>
<p>I said that I would continue trying for the rankings above 25 and LAC rankings. My mother was only given the rankings from 1-25 for universities because I think that is all her friend wrote down (was not allowed to give an actual copy of the rankings).</p>
<p>I agree with Alexandre. When the Law School rankings were leaked it was everywhere along with photocopies. I have serious doubts about this.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that all the kids that can get accepted into these schools are really bright rising young men and women. It’s what they do with the education and their lives as they mature into adulthood. In everyone’s circle of friends there is always an idiot that graduated from a top school and a just all around freakin genius that graduated from school unknown. Just because you go to a top 25 school does not gaurantee success or happiness.</p>
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exactly</p>
<p>when do the real rankings come out?!</p>
<p>Yea, when do they come out?</p>
<p>And what happened to ucla!?? I hope it didn’t drop too much. :(</p>
<p>[US</a> News & World Report - Breaking News, World News, Business News, and America’s Best Colleges - USNews.com](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com%5DUS”>http://www.usnews.com) has a countdown to the release…my lord…anyway at the moment it is 7 days, 5 hours, 52 minutes and 40 seconds…39…38…wait 37…</p>
<p>I, for one, am giddy with excitement. I am almost embarrassed by how forward I am looking to this.</p>
<p>Your “mom’s best friend”…</p>
<p>Sure.</p>
<p>Is anyone else a little surprised at how low Georgetown’s been ranked for the past few years? I’ll admit I’m biased, but I definitely think it deserves to be higher than Vandy, Emory, and Rice, at least.</p>
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<p>With good reason - Willmingtonwave is the resident CC Wake Forest correspondent, and WFU went SAT-optional beginning this year. This could have increased their applicant pool which would reduce their acceptance rate, and their average SATs would have gone up assuming that those who opted not to send scores are likely to be the ones on the lower end of the applicant pool score range. Wake was tied for # 28 this year; it’ll be interesting to see if their score moves as a result of the new policy. If however, you believe the sneak-preview list provided by the OP, it apparently didn’t move as high as # 25.</p>
<p>From a New Englander’s standpoint, I totally agree with you simpson. Perhaps it’s my geographic location, but in my mind, Georgetown is more prestigious than the schools you listed.</p>
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I’m not surprised at all. All three leave Georgetown in the dust at the graduate level, and Georgetown’s undergraduate reputation is mostly bolstered by SFS and graduate placement (particularly law).</p>
<p>Gadad, WFU will have to wait ONE more year with bated breath:</p>
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<p>The 2009 Class (or Class of 2013) will be covered in next year’s edition.</p>
<p>“In the dust”? How? Georgetown’s Business and Law schools are all more highly ranked than those three, and its medical school is on a pretty competitive level too.</p>
<p>Plus, all of this is kind of a moot point because we’re talking about undergraduate rankings. They all have just about the same exact SAT ranges, and Georgetown has a lower acceptance rate than all of them. They all have pretty much the same peer assessment score, though I think Georgetown’s is hurt a little by the whole Jesuit thing:</p>
<p>Georgetown, Vandy, and Rice-4.0
Emory-3.9</p>
<p>Georgetown also has a higher freshman retention rate than them-97%</p>
<p>The only aspects, really, that Georgetown remains weak in is financial resources, which makes sense because the only started their endowment in the 1970’s. Besides, I don’t even know how fair the whole financial aspect is in rating colleges, it doesn’t seem all that relevant to me. Anyway, I know Georgetown may not be vastly superior than those three schools, but I know for certain that they are at least on par if not more. I was only confused because Georgetown’s general prestige, which is extremely high, didn’t seem to quite match up with its ranking.</p>
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Graduate =/= Professional. It’s a simple concept, yet one that not many on CC seem to grasp. </p>
<p>Of those three schools, undergraduates have access to professors in only one (business). Graduate programs, on the other hand, have the exact same professors as undergraduate programs – and Emory, Rice, and Vanderbilt take the lead. Heck, Emory is stronger even in undergrad business.</p>
<p>Of course Georgetown is that good. Who cares about their grad programs?!. This is supposed to be about undegrads but of course it never really has b/c the grad school halo effect filters down to this “opinion poll”. Every one knows that most of the students at the large publics could not get in at Rice, Tufts, W&M, and Georgtown and the other smaller LAC-like schools that have traditionally gotten the short end of the USNWR $$$-maker issue. </p>
<p>But we keep talking about it, and the unwary, unaware masses keep buying this “swimsuit” issue, even though the rankings havent changed much the past decade.</p>