<p>...especially pleased with the ""academic reputation index" & "High School Counselors' Top Picks" rankings:</p>
<p>Cornell</a> Chronicle: Cornell No. 1 in engineering, No. 14 in world</p>
<p>Thanks for posting. According to USNWR’s survey of academic peers, Cornell’s “academic reputation index” was #6 [behind only HYPSM]. A survey of high school guidance counselors ranked Cornell #1, tied with 7 other schools.</p>
<p>Tied for 15th is BS. How are we below WashU, Northwestern, Duke, and the like?</p>
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<p>And in what way are we so superior to WashU or Northwestern or Duke? These are all peer schools.</p>
<p>Cornell is not a peer of Duke and Northwestern, let alone superior to them. Stop trying to flatter yourself.</p>
<p>I guess that Provosts, presidents, & heads of admission failed to be swayed by your expert opinion. From the above linked article:</p>
<p>“Among its peers, Cornell had an “academic reputation index” (the peer assessment as measured by a survey of presidents, provosts, heads of admission and high school guidance counselors) that is as high as it has ever been. “We had a score of 94, and only five schools outscored us on that measure: Harvard, Princeton, Yale, MIT and Stanford,” said Marin Clarkberg, director of Cornell’s Office of Institutional Research and Planning.”</p>
<p>I think that seven schools outscored Cornell, as 4th place tied schools Columbia and UChicago have Peer Assessment scores of 96, which are ahead of Cornell’s 94. I am referring specifically to the PA score – or academic rep. score – which is separate from High School Counselor ranking.</p>
<p>That said, I have never understood why Cornell is NOT in the top ten of national universities. It is a phenomenal school with an extraordinary history. It is criminally underrated on CC by the naive and undereducated.</p>
<p>I would add that indeed Cornell is NOT a peer of Duke and Northwestern. Its actual peers are the other seven members of the Ivy League: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, UPenn, Brown, and Dartmouth.</p>
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LOL @ the Duke ■■■■■.</p>
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This is a profoundly ignorant statement.</p>
<p>Cornell and Duke and Northwestern and let’s throw in Penn, Vanderbilt, Wash U, Chicago, Brown (and several other schools).</p>
<p>As people who read my posts will attest – I’m a BIG Cornell supporter. I think it’s an excellent school, and for many is the best school in the US.</p>
<p>Now – all of the schools I’ve listed above are excellent schools, all provide an excellent education, all are well reputed. The differences between statistics for enterring classes are largely insignificant.</p>
<p>What I don’t understand, is the need to criticize any of these schools from anyone. They’re all great – and each distinct.</p>
<p>Peers. (from other university administrations)</p>
<p>[Peer</a> Data Links | Office of Institutional Research](<a href=“http://oir.yale.edu/peers-data]Peer”>http://oir.yale.edu/peers-data)
[Peer</a> Institutions ?*Provost](<a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/provost/institutional-research/peer-institutions/]Peer”>http://www.princeton.edu/provost/institutional-research/peer-institutions/)
[Penn:</a> Institutional Research & Analysis](<a href=“http://www.upenn.edu/ir/irlinks.html]Penn:”>Institutional Research Resources | Penn Institutional Research & Analysis)</p>
<p>I guess university presidents, provosts, and data planning officials used academic reputation index only - Unlike USNWR using all other overstretched factors like endowment, student/faculty ratio…</p>
<p>Don’t listen to Cuse, Cornell is definitely a peer of Chicago, Duke, Penn, etc. What ****es me off is that Penn, Princeton, and Yale don’t acknowledge Caltech and Duke to be peer schools.</p>
<p>All those three links prove is that the Ivies are in love with each other and think they are collectively the greatest thing on Earth.</p>
<p>Um, excuse me golden. All of the following, among others, have officially and formally designated Cornell a peer institution: all the Ivies, Stanford, and MIT. Hmmm. What you believe is irrelevant, as these schools themselves believe Cornell to be their peer. Case closed. None of the Ivies formally and officially designate Duke a peer. Nor does Stanford. Nor does Chicago. However, Harvard does formally and officially designate CalTech a peer institution as, of course, does MIT. Stanford does not. Your “proof” to the contrary, Stanford formally and officially designates only ten schools as its peers. Lo and behold, one of them is Columbia University. Again, case closed. Oddly enough, among Ivy League universities, the only one that does not designate Stanford a peer is Princeton. Make of that what you will.</p>
<p>All of that is rubbish. I think you’re over analyzing that peer bench marking data. Princeton’s administration is delusional if they don’t consider Stanford to be a peer and the same can be said of Chicago to not consider Duke. All of the objective data available show these schools to be peers.</p>
<p>So, now the schools themselves are lying or “delusional” because their peer cohorts don’t match your preconceptions? If you don’t agree, write the individual universities and tell them they are wrong, that only you and your data are the final and undisputed arbiters of university peer status. Please be sure to post the replies you get from Harvard and Stanford revising their peer cohorts per your instructions. I am eagerly awaiting them.</p>
<p>And, I am not over analyzing. In fact, I am NOT analyzing at all. I am reporting evidence provided by the schools themselves. I take the schools at their word, and as the FINAL word. The schools have self-identified their own peers. Your peer classifications and rankings are simply nullified by facts provided by the universities themselves. Case closed. Really, dude. Case closed. </p>
<p>You have trolled three different forums since the USNWR rankings have been released either to viciously bash and denigrate schools with which you have no connection (attempting ever more feverishly to “prove” their inferiority to their partisans), or to rant because rankings or peer assessments do not accord with your assumptions. Why not be POSITIVE for a change and go to the Duke forum and celebrate what is great about Duke, rather than spending your time tearing down other schools? We have argued with you to no avail, but at no point have we bashed other schools in our efforts to support our own. This could not be more unproductive or tiresome.</p>
<p>What are you talking about? I just stated in a previous post that Cornell is an excellent school who is a peer of NU, Chicago, Duke, etc.</p>
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You see, I don’t care what these schools list as their peer cohorts. If Cornell thinks its too good to be associated with Duke and wants to cling on to Harvard instead, then so be it. It doesn’t change the actual quality of either of these three schools which is already established. Duke doesn’t even bother to list what its “Peers” since it doesn’t care about this sort of silly gamesmanship.</p>
<p>I know, like I said, I think very highly of Cornell.:)</p>