<p>I confabulated with a transfer admissions counselor at USC via phone in regards to SAT. She frankly told me that if you think your SAT scores will jeapordize your admission than you can skip the Standardized Test section of the form.</p>
<p>My score was like a 1000/1600 but my GPA is good 3.8 on 65 credits. Should I skip the SAT section?</p>
<p>i think you should, if that section is optional.</p>
<p>1000/1600 are low…very low…like community college low</p>
<p>your college gpa bucks the trend set up by your sat, so why would you include it?</p>
<p>^^
Disagree completely with previous poster. His SAT scores are slightly below average. His GPA reflects his work ethic, and those scores are not community college low at all, and frankly I found that quite rude of you to say.
As for OP, there is always the option of retesting, but if you feel you are a bad tester, than I would recommend omitting that section.</p>
<p>Best of Luck!</p>
<p>Since the SAT score is not going to be a major factor for you, I too would advise keeping it out. Make sure you get the name of the person you spoke to at USC, though.</p>
<p>Best of luck :)</p>
<p>Nerf, are you serious? Certainly no offense to the OP, as my SAT scores weren’t much better either, but a 1000/1600 is low. I don’t know what “community college low” means, but a 1000/1600 is significantly below USC’s median, deeming it “low” for all intents and purposes.</p>
<p>if you can, skip the section.</p>
<p>USC’s freshmen admit, admitted, and applied SAT scores are given here:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.usc.edu/student-affairs/parents/images/profilefreshman2006.pdf[/url]”>http://www.usc.edu/student-affairs/parents/images/profilefreshman2006.pdf</a></p>
<p>As you can see, if you are at the 25% level you had a 1310/1600 score, and if you were at the 75% level you had a 1490/1600. These scores (at the 25% level) put you in the top 12% of all SAT takers, while a 1000/1600 only puts you in the top 50% of all SAT takers.</p>
<p>Thus, if you are allowed to leave it out, do so–but I’ve looked at the application and I don’t see anywhere where it says you are allowed to leave these scores out. (In fact, my son retook the SAT specifically to improve his score up to 1350/1600 from his original 1260/1600 since he saw that the application required the SAT scores–and he knew the USC averages).</p>
<p>You don’t have to submit any SAT/ACT scores to USC if you have over a certain amount of credits? right?</p>
<p>I’ve seen that said on collegeconfidential (in a different thread)–but only on collegeconfidential.</p>
<p>Nobody has shown me where it says that on the application or on any official USC site.</p>
<p>P.S. I have seen where USC says they put less emphasis on it if you are a junior transfer (a sophomore transferring in for your junior year), but that’s not the same as saying you aren’t supposed to fill out the section–or that USC would put no weight on your SAT scores at all in determining admission.</p>
<p>In fact, I wonder if the person who wrote that on here did so with the hope that everybody who left the section out would have their application rejected. After all, why should you follow what someone wrote on here instead of the instructions right on the USC application itself?</p>
<p>I wasn’t talking about USC’s average.
We aren’t talking about freshmen admits, we are talking about a potential transfer. If you read my post in it’s entirety, you would see that I suggested retaking. I agree that a 1600 is not within the SAT range of USC Freshman, but less emphasis is placed on those scores, and more on his GPA. I don’t recall ever being able to omit the SAT scores in a USC transfer, but that strays from his question.</p>
<p>Nerf2111, if you reread my post you will see that I am agreeing with you.</p>
<p>I believe the OP should retake the test also. And, you’ll notice, I referred to people on other threads (not this thread) who made the comment about SATs not being required for transfer candidates who are applying for the junior year.</p>
<p>The reason I included the freshman SAT scores is because USC does not give any data at all on the transfer SAT scores. One would presume, however, that USC would want transfers students who are equivalent in “smarts” to already admitted students–and thus the SAT scores of those applying and being admitted as transfers should be fairly equivalent to the SATs of the freshman admits.</p>
<p>From <a href=“http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/private/docs/admission/forms/0809/Form5.pdf[/url]”>http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/private/docs/admission/forms/0809/Form5.pdf</a></p>
<p>SAT/ACT<br>
USC requires either SAT or ACT (with the optional Writing test) scores from:<br>
• all freshman applicants attending high school in the United States (recommended for students in Canada);<br>
• freshman applicants who attend overseas American or international schools following the U.S. education system; and<br>
• transfer students who have accumulated fewer than 30 transferable semester units. </p>
<p>With 65 credits, the OP is definitely is not required to submit them. I will have around the same number of credits after this semester, and my SATs were horrible (I can’t even remember what they are since I took them in 2003) but I know they were around average or below. I did not send in mine.</p>
<p>Calcruzer,
I was talking to chessie :)</p>
<p>Hmm, I sent mine in anyway, even though I have more than 30 units. They were far from spectacular too. Darn it.</p>
<p>Um. I was the one that said you didn’t have to turn in your SAT scores if you had over thirty units by the END of spring. And no. I’m not trying to stop you guys from being admitted. If that was the case, I would’ve submitted my SAT scores too, but i didn’t. So please don’t make those kinds of assumptions. And even if the SAT scores needed to be submitted, they wouldn’t reject you over a single piece of information. USC is a bit more decent than that. Here is an email that I received from the assistant director of admissions himself:</p>
<p>Hanah,</p>
<p>If you will have 30 units completed, then you will not need to send in
your scores. It may help to include them just in case you are forced to
withdraw from one of those courses, but if you will reach 30 by the
end of the spring, then your scores will not be needed.</p>
<p>Michael Gulotta
213-821-2165</p>
<hr>
<p>Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:50 PM
To: Michael Gulotta
Subject: question with application</p>
<p>Hi Michael, I was wondering if I have to send in my SAT scores with
my application if I am going to have completed over 30
units at the end of the school year? Thanks for your help.</p>
<p>There is the evidence and proof that I’m not trying to Mess with your minds.</p>
<p>Thanks, Michael. Sorry to have questioned the motives (but it has been done by others before). See the NYU site sometime if you want details on this (people were convinced to log on to a NYU website that was only for administrators to check out their admission status and those who did were all threatened by NYU with being denied admission for that reason alone. The only reason they didn’t reject them all was because they realized someone else was convincing everybody that it was okay to do so.–this was over a year ago.) Check out the last week of March in 2006 on the NYU site to see the messages, if you are interested.</p>
<p>P.S. I wouldn’t suggest you post your telephone number on here..but that’s up to you, I guess.</p>
<p>@Calcruzer: I believe the name is Hanah; Michael is the USC rep :)</p>