USC or UCLA?

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<p>Im from Los Angeles & people here are much more impressed by UCLA & USC than Duke & Northwestern. </p>

<p>Edit: & I see you went go to Duke so you may have a differnt view.</p>

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<p>^I don’t believe impressed is the right term. Perhaps more familiar is the best. I too am a Norcal fellow man so I’m pretty familiar with the Socal area myself.</p>

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<p>@collegetrail
I’m from Los Angeles (and a UCLA student so you know there is no bias) and I would have to say that is untrue. Duke and Northwestern are very well respected.</p>

<p>Of course, if we’re discussing business, be aware that Duke’s Fuqua is #14 so it objectively isn’t that impressive (especially in consideration of Berkeley’s Haas whose students spam California).</p>

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<p>^Yep. I admit, Fuqua has been on the decline a bit over the years (although Businessweek puts it at #8!) but ehh, its #14 in a pool of thousands of business schools among America. :)</p>

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<p>ok its all relative. It depends on which kind of crowd you hang with. I know for sure at my high school USC & UCLA were more respected than Northwestern & Duke.</p>

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<p>@collegetrail: Hmm so now we go from people at Los Angles not finding Northwestern and Duke as respected as USC&UCLA to group of high school kids at LA finding USC/UCLA more respectable than Northwestern and Duke. Which is it?</p>

<p>I really hate being a d!ck to people, but its this kind of “talking out of your butt” behavior that I hate on CC. I prefer it if people kept quiet than giving out severely useless and subjective information…</p>

<p>As you can see, I’m in a really terrible mood now. I’m sorry. I should go to sleep…</p>

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<p>Yeah you should this is not an arguement I just realized that nerds on CC (like yourself) are probably more concerned with US News top 25 than the casual person. Still doesnt change
the fact that most of the people I know (which include Ivy League students,cal student,ucla students,& usc students) think more of UCLA & USC. Like I said it depends on the type of people you hang around with.</p>

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<p>What? I never said only HYPSM was a “one way ticket to success”. What are you even trying to get at? Nothing in my argument goes in the direction you’re trying to attack. What does some work of fiction have to do with this? Your whole post is absurd.</p>

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<p>“Yeah you should this is not an arguement I just realized that nerds on CC (like yourself) are probably more concerned with US News top 25 than the casual person.”</p>

<p>Thesaiyans666 is not a “nerd.” He builds robots at MIT for gosh sakes!</p>

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<p>Georgia Girl,
The very act of dropping German means they are lessening the language program. Sure USC still has languages but it never has had a STRONG language program and that might be important to someone in international business (or not). My D was accepted to USC for grad school and this was one of the reasons she scratched it off the list.</p>

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<p>Neil Armstrong went to Purdue.</p>

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<p>I guess that’s what they’re referring to, but it’s after or late into his Apollo stuff. So USC didn’t make him the man he is</p>

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<p>gwu_girl, #31:</p>

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<p>I’m trying to think what suburb this would be. It’s not in OC, but a ‘burb of LA and is conservative. Not real important… </p>

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<p>UCLA has interdisciplinary - I’m repeating myself - bus and econ. Anderson offers undergrad classes, accounting, finance to undergrads. Marketing, you’d definitely want to go CSU or USC.</p>

<p>Studying bus and being employed in the business sector are two different things. And I wouldn’t worry about UCLA’s intern possibilities with consulting firms, etc.</p>

<p>TxHorn, #35:</p>

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<p>There are a lot of USC grads in small business. I’ve heard of a USC entrepreneur major trying to become the next Domino’s. There are USC grads in pool cleaning and rug cleaning. One of the top bus grads at USC opened up a copy and printing supplies office which became Kinko’s. Another, of USC’s top grads opened up a storage-space business. I’m not mocking it at all. A lot of it is low-tech, certainly, though.</p>

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<p>Why so antagonistic towards UCLA? By all accounts it’s been pretty civil in this thread. And I’d change your name if I were you - UT Austin has how many undergrads? ~ 35,000?</p>

<p>Where abouts did you live in CA? </p>

<p>collegetrail, #38:</p>

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<p>I wouldn’t discount the successes of UCLA grads in the bus field. </p>

<p>Typically, a CA consulting and I-banking firm firm would have to project UCLA grads more and would interview general engineering majors, some bus-econ, and econ, and other analytical tech-type majors. </p>

<p>In fact, I would probably say that the majority of interns and new hires at CA consulting, weren’t and aren’t (aren’t and weren’t?) bus majors.</p>

<p>And not having an undergrad bus doesn’t hurt a lot of Ivy colleges - and lest you tear into what I’m saying, I’m not comparing UCLA to the Ivies.</p>

<p>collegetrail, #45:</p>

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<p>I’d agree with this. CA has such an extensive public higher educational system, it doesn’t have that elite college sensitisvity the eastcoast has.</p>

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<p>I’d like to be the one-millionth person to say that Duke is nowhere near as revered nationwide as Duke people think it is. Getting a bunch of rich Ivy rejects from New Jersey is not a way to impress anybody.</p>

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<p>with a bunch of lacrosse players walking the campus as BMOC, doing anything they want without legal/criminal repercussions.</p>

<p>I mean, lacrosse players? </p>

<p>Speaking of lacrosse, why is this sport so widely viewed on ESPNU and ESPN2? Doesn’t ESPN have any other filler? Bring back that Spelling Bee.</p>

<p>j/k, lol…</p>

<p>Sorry Thesaiyans…</p>

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<p>“Bring back that Spelling Bee.”</p>

<p>Yeah, I could watch that Indian kid pass out all day.</p>

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<p>OP, you don’t really need to choose between them at this point. Both are selective universities and the “decision” may be made for you in the admission process. Apply to Berkeley, UCLA and to USC (as well as some academic+financial safeties). After your acceptances come in is a sensible time for a “vs” thread.</p>

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<p>@XThorn: Is my post absurd or yours? Why don’t we take a look?

That’s absurd. These two universities are world class and are respected in east coast. Get real.</p>

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What the hell? And why would anyone care to blow someone off with wherever they went? </p>

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Actually they don’t. Really. Pretty much anyone who goes “WOW” when they ask me where I go to college are those moms and dads trying to push their high school kids to achieve better and those high achieving high school kids. Even then people just say “nice” and leave it at that.
Employers, old people, girlfriends don’t give a crap at all. In fact, they expect more from you which is troublesome.</p>

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This is probably the most absurd post ever. UCLA and USC are top 25 universities. Its nothing to sneeze at.</p>

<p>My response to you wasn’t really an attack, my friend. Its advice and something to consider. Please don’t feel offended. </p>

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You’re a parent aren’t you? What’s an old fart like you doing here on CC? Maybe you should go work than waste your time putting down prospective students. This isn’t the 1960s. Times have changed and Duke is right behind “HYPSM”'s trail.

Hahaha. Yeah, probably true. Actually I’m concerned with US News top 50 :)</p>

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<p>Re: USC’s reputation, or prestige: Since USC’s high ranking is a relatively new phenomenon, there will be completely different perceptions based on the age of the respondent:</p>

<p>– 50 yr old: USC was not ranked when this person went to college in the 1970s, but if it had been ranked, it would have been in the 70-90 range based on admissions selectivity, SAT scores, and GPA of admitted students.</p>

<p>– 40 yr old: USC was still unranked, but based on the same criteria outlined above, would have been in the 40-50 range.</p>

<p>– 30 yr. old: now we’re talking. The USC decision to pay NMF’s 50% tuition starts to pay off with much higher GPA and SAT scores, and a lower acceptance rate. USC breaks the top 40 for the first time in 2001 at #35.</p>

<p><a href=“http://web.archive.org/web/20070908142457/http://chronicle.com/stats/usnews/[/url]”>http://web.archive.org/web/20070908142457/http://chronicle.com/stats/usnews/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>So assuming the OP is interested in how USC is viewed by a person INTERVIEWING TO HIRE HIM, and not how USC us viewed by current 17 year old high school students, OP should consider which of the above category of interviewer is most applicable to his situation.</p>

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<p>… always been highly ranked or higher ranked than USC.</p>

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<p>I always hear of the USC Power Brokers of the 40’s, 50’s, 60’s. USC grads who ran LA, were the most important people.</p>

<p>In the 70’s and 80’s both were probably considered also-rans. UCLA as a doormat to Cal; USC as a haven for rich kids. I’m sure that during these times, UCLA admitted anyone who qualified under the index.</p>

<p>During the 90’s is when people started to see teh quality of grads at UCLA, even with a high acceptance rate, and started to apply to UCLA in a lot more numbers and as an alternative to Cal.</p>