<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>UPenn</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Washington</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Tufts</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>UCBerkeley</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>Virginia</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>Wake Forest</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>North Carolina</li>
<li>Brandeis</li>
<li>Boston College</li>
<li>Rochester</li>
<li>Lehigh</li>
<li>William and Mary</li>
<li>Georgia Tech</li>
<li>Wisconsin</li>
<li>NYU</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>Case Western</li>
<li>Rensselaer</li>
<li>Washington</li>
<li>Yeshiva</li>
<li>Illinois</li>
<li>UC Irvine</li>
<li>Tulane</li>
<li>UC Santa Barbara</li>
<li>Florida</li>
<li>Miami</li>
<li>Penn State</li>
</ol>
<p>where exactly are these rankings from???</p>
<p>bump!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>there is no way that is US News's rankings...why would Caltech and Yale drop?</p>
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<p>somebody's ass.</p>
<p>source?</p>
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...not really reliable...</p>
<p>so just wait until it is officially released on Aug 17</p>
<p>ya, new stats don't come out at this time of year, unless they're phony.</p>
<p>where did this list come from?!?</p>
<p>Why should USC being ahead of UCLA be so important?</p>
<p>Further discussion (probably fake, wait until August 17 or so is the consensus): <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=379939%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=379939</a></p>
<p>Reminds me of the Harry Potter leak everyone was questioning :o</p>
<p>I'm going to be an optimist and say that these will end up being the USNWR national college rankings. It's not impossible to have a clean leak (a 100% accurate leak), especially when you know inside sources within publishing.</p>
<p>Then again, maybe I'm being too optimistic?</p>
<p>It seems too big of a thing for USC to move up and UCLA to move down to produce such a gap. Plus, people in the other thread see other things wrong with it. But hey, we shall see...</p>
<p>13-9 :-) ...10 characters</p>
<p>^ One thing we do know for sure, UCLA will be ranked lower than Cal</p>
<p>UCLA had to move ahead of Virginia and Michigan, which were each 3 points ahead of USC last year... 3 points is a fairly significant gap at this level of ranking. Plus, both outperformed USC graduation rates last year... Virginia was +7, Michigan +9 and USC -2. Plus, Michigan voters did away with affirmative action, so the admit rates and selectivity went way up. I could more easily believe a jump ahead of one of these shcool, but not schools... 3 points is a lot to make up in one year.,, unless USC's reputation score (the largest single factor) went up and/or the others went down. And the new rankings aren't released until August 17th... I guess we'll find out on Friday. Anything's possible, especially if they reallocated the scoring percentages.</p>
<p>Stanford closing a 4 point from Yale is the truly unbelievable one and makes me suspicious... and still no source from the poster. This movement at the very top with two 4.9 reputation ranked schools is the most unbelievable part.</p>
<p>also, at the lower end of the rankings, I don't see UT, which is consistently in the low forties, high 30s, and since they're still a solid school, I doubt they dropped like 10 places...</p>
<p>i know it's not aug 17, but looks like the authentic rankings are up: <a href="http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php%5B/url%5D">http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php</a></p>
<p>and usc is not ahead of ucla. oh well :P</p>
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<p>I was so wrong about being optimistic. It's OK. USC is still #1 in my heart.</p>