USC v. UCLA - Jobs after Undergrad? (Business/Econ)

<p>USC being the prominent Marshall School of Business would allow undergrads to find jobs easily right out of undergrad. Is this always true? What about Pre-Business/Econ majors at UCLA?</p>

<p>This is a pretty general question, but it's a pretty broad topic to being with.
Thanks in advance!</p>

<p>prominent? really? maybe in the LA area but once you get out it's not quite "prominent" anymore</p>

<p>this probably doesn't need to be stated, as it's common sense, yet often goes unnoticed.</p>

<p>No one just hands you a job. You get the job. In any economy the competition will force candidates to stand out, part of standing out is your education, however it is not the defining thing that will land you that job. So many things goes into getting a job after undergrad including work/internship experience, interviews, the way one presents themselves etc. the difference between ucla and usc is simply the connections/network. However that network/connection, just because it exist does not mean it will be the resource that lands you your first job/s after undergrad. I know a guy who went to USC, and didn't use the trojan network/connection to land his first job. He went through a private national agency that has locations in la.</p>

<p>^Agrees.</p>

<p>Even if the network is better, it does no good if you don't make use of it. Not everyone at USC Biz school gets a job. If you don't use the connections, it doesnt matter if your school has a better network.</p>

<p>It depends on what you want to do.</p>

<p>When it comes to internships, USC is UCLA's only competitor in the Los Angeles Region. Here's a list of e-mails from a Merrill Lynch interview lineup for an unpaid internship with an FA. Note this FA is about 1 hour away from the USC campus in Woodland Hills. If your intent is to come to the LA region to get into finance, it will be extremely competitive in this market and even more so in this city. My rec is to go to an Ivy league university where the faculty to student ratio is lower and grades are more inflated.</p>

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<p>I don't know what that email list from Merrill is getting at, but what I do know is that a crappy economy is a crappy economy- Ivy League/private school or not. In the long run, it makes little difference what undergrad school you went to if you're deciding between UCLA and USC. However, if you want to get into the technicalities of it, quite frankly UCLA is much higher academically than is USC. Business school wise, Anderson is ranked higher than Marshall in most b-school rankings. I would go with UCLA for sure.</p>

<p>UCLA may be higher ranked, but in business, your network is everything. USC has the network.</p>

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<p>not at cornell pal…</p>

<p>USC probably has slightly more recognition on the east coast, it’s considered the “nyu of the west”, for better or worse (stern not included). i think the marginal difference is minimal, what do you think you want to do? which do you think you’ll enjoy more?</p>

<p>What if we throw UC Berkeley into the mix - Haas?</p>

<p>I mean, since this is talking about undergrad programs. Does where you go for undergrad affect where you’ll get in for graduate school?</p>

<p>I think if you go to Haas, you have more opportunities outside of just the SoCal area. SF, Chicago, NYC, etc. Haas is better than UCLA Biz Econ and USC Marshall or Leventhal in terms of job opportunities in my opinion.</p>

<p>Haas is heads and shoulders above the rest … no comparison here</p>

<p>^ Haas > all others, in terms of their undergrad program?</p>

<p>What if you were to apply to grad school later on?
Would your undergrad school have much impact on admission to grad school?</p>

<p>Grad school admission is base more on your GPA and your standardized scores. Where you go as an undergrad might have an impact but will most likely be a minor one.</p>

<p>I’m a sophomore at USC, and all I can say is that USC’s career services is ranked 3rd in the nation. As an international student, I was able to find an internship with Merrill Lynch in my freshman year. Yes, it’s only wealth management, nothing prestigious like I-banking or anything, but what I’m trying to say is the opportunities are out there. Moreover, we have a program called Trojans hiring Trojans, which allows alumni to come back to our campus and hire our students before they look anywhere else. These includes Big 4 firms and your I-banks and Big 3 consulting firms. </p>

<p>The network in USC definitely makes a difference. Banks, acct firms, and consulting firms recruit actively on campus, and come twice a year for full time and summer recruiting. I can only speak for USC, because I’ve experienced it, and it definitely helped. I got an internship during fall with a boutique investment bank and this summer i’ve secured one with a private equity firm in newport beach. I literally got hired because the interviewer was a alumni, he said that plainly (kinda discredited my experience but whatever). Remember I managed to get these despite my international student status and the bad economy, and I don’t have stellar GPA (less than 3.5). The opportunities are out there, just have to take advantage and get them. UCLA is good too, cos LA offices only recruit from those 2 places, lol (sorry claremont mckenna and pepperdine). </p>

<p>Hope this helps</p>

<p>That helps a bunch, thanks!</p>