UVA Admission Numbers

<p>If you haven't been following Dean J's blog, she just posted the number of applications UVA has received and it is as follows:</p>

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<p>Yes that is an increase of 1426 applications. I'm hoping the acceptance rates don't change to drastically from last year (24% OOS, 42% IS). </p>

<p>I hope everyone is having a good time now that the college admissions process is over. Don't let senioritis sneak up on you.</p>

<p>According to these numbers it is an increase of 685. Check your Math.</p>

<p>Actually, his calculation is correct. 23,942 - 22,516 = exactly 1,426.</p>

<p>Mamalumper calculated 2009-2010</p>

<p>yup. my bad</p>

<p>Does that mean that the acceptance rate will hover around 29-30% instead of 32% likes last year?</p>

<p>hey UVAorBust. did you get into chapel hill?</p>

<p>the acceptance rate will stay about the same as last year since they are accepting more freshmen this year.</p>

<p>Okay, let’s do some math here. I ran three scenarios (basically - optimistic, realistic, and pessimistic) using the data from 2008 found here [IAS</a> Historical Data: First-Time First-Year Applicants by Residency](<a href=“http://www.web.virginia.edu/IAAS/data_catalog/institutional/historical/admission/first_by_residency.htm]IAS”>http://www.web.virginia.edu/IAAS/data_catalog/institutional/historical/admission/first_by_residency.htm) and the numbers also found here [UVa</a> - First-Time First-Year Admission](<a href=“http://www.web.virginia.edu/iaas/data_catalog/institutional/data_digest/adm_first.htm]UVa”>http://www.web.virginia.edu/iaas/data_catalog/institutional/data_digest/adm_first.htm) and UVAorBust’s 24/42% (don’t know where that came from btw) and the Post’s article [College</a> Inc. - More seats at U-Va. could ease admission woes](<a href=“http://voices.washingtonpost.com/college-inc/2011/01/more_seats_at_u-va_could_ease.html?hpid=sec-education]College”>http://voices.washingtonpost.com/college-inc/2011/01/more_seats_at_u-va_could_ease.html?hpid=sec-education).</p>

<p>Optimistic: If you assume that, in fact, exactly 120 more freshman will enroll next year than this year, there will be 3387 freshman (notice this is higher than the 3360 goal) enrolling. This is 2235 in state and 1117(.7) out of state. Assuming the yield will be 45% again, and that it stays at 42/24 for offer %, it produces totally reasonable numbers: 56/33 for yield (less than last year).</p>

<p>Pessimistic: If you assume that, as the article says, a low of 200 more offers of admission will be made than last year, you would have a total enrollment of 3335 (below the benchmark), and assume that the offer percentages continue in their current linear pace downward to 39.5/22.5, you’d end up with slightly higher yields than 2010. I think this situation is somewhat unrealistic because it doesn’t give the target class or realistic yields. So I think the Post was wrong that only 200 more offers of admission will be made.</p>

<p>Realistic: This scenario takes into account that exactly 3360 will enroll at a total 45% yield rate. I averaged the in state and out of state offers between the pessimistic and optimistic scenarios and this led to a 41% in state offer percentage and 23% out of state offer percentage. This is the most likely scenario, but it is promising that the numbers don’t go down too much in this scenario.</p>

<p>I can send you my excel if you would like to see more of the details of this.
hazel</p>

<p>I thought the increase in 1st year students was going to start next year? Also, I was under the impression that the whole reason for the increase in 1st year students over the next decade was to admit more in-state students to make the Legislature and Governor happy.</p>

<p>In some ways, that is the worst of all worlds for incoming students - they don’t get the benefit of the easier admission, but they get more crowding. Unfortunately, I don’t think Va. is going to increase their funding commensurate with the increased enrollment. They have already reduced their funding something like $2,500 per in-state student.</p>

<p>Therefore, if the no. of out of state apps increased consistent with the overall numbers of applicants, it would definitely reduce the out of state admissions rate.</p>

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It begins in the next academic year. We are reading the applications of the class that will be part of the increase.</p>

<p>In our world, the year is in terms of the academic calendar. This year ends in May for me. :)</p>

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I’m too busy right now to crunch numbers, but I’ve been told that the proposed increase will bring in about as many Virginia residents as some of of the proposed changes in the VA:OOS ratio would have. I haven’t even glanced at the numbers because I’m knee deep in files, so pardon me if that isn’t correct.</p>

<p>Tim Hugo’s bill proposing a change in the VA:OOS ratio is still working through the legislature. Note that it says that the loss of funding must be made up by an increase to OOS tuition rates. In the six years I’ve been watching these bills, they’ve always failed in appropriations because of the funding implications.</p>

<p>You can track that bill here:
[Richmond</a> Sunlight 2011 Higher educational institutions; board of visitors set rules so 75% enrolled be Virginia domiciles. (HB2053)](<a href=“http://www.richmondsunlight.com/bill/2011/hb2053/]Richmond”>Richmond Sunlight » 2011 » Higher educational institutions; board of visitors set rules so 75% enrolled be Virginia domiciles. (HB2053))</p>

<p>this seems like bad news for those of us applying from out of state to VA schools (sniff, sniff) - we were going to be looking at VA schools for my junior who is out of state, and UVA, JMU and Mary Washington all have more than 25% out of state- if this bill passes that can only make OOS admisssion to these great schools more competitive as well as more expensive…</p>

<p>Hello, Dean J! I have a question.
Let’s say, hypothetically speaking, that someone’s status says “decision made”. Do you go back over these decisions when looking at mid-year and/or year-end reports?</p>

<p>Pamom, the bill probably won’t pass. </p>

<p>Newport News, I addressed what you’re seeing on my blog (see the post from 1/17/2011). Decisions aren’t final until mid-March.</p>

<p>[Notes</a> from Peabody: The UVA Application Process](<a href=“http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/]Notes”>http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/)</p>

<p>I am worried about you Hazelorb…I too was phi beta kappa at uva but I had fun! Had a great social life and studied when I needed to but did not spend my life on the computer…</p>

<p>College offers many things…and a well grounded social life combined with academics ranks high among those. I have the sense you never branch out…Trust me… when I applied for jobs, I had to defend my high gpa and persuade those interviewing that I was not a geek who spent their life in the library or on the computer… That said…if research is your thing or quant analysis is up your alley than disregard my comment. Most jobs require an understanding and awareness of what makes others tick which means branching out and meeting others in many environments. (Brown is not the norm!) This skill goes very far in life as well as diligence and aptitude…</p>

<p>Okay… What… I work 13 hours a week (TA-ing and tutoring 4 kids), sing in 2 choir groups, was an active participant in my dorm’s governance board and had other leadership positions in other clubs until this year when I was basically working full time as a student teacher, volunteer at various schools, have a healthy social life, etc. I’m not really sure where your comment is coming from or why it is appropriate for a full board posting and not a private message. Anyways, hope that helps calm YOUR fears! FYI 9 other people in the elem ed program are in PBK too. We all are pretty well rounded…
And I spend a lot of time on the computer because I am a TA for the computer science department. It comes with the job (both the interest in computers, which is a plus in education if you were not aware, and part of the job entailing email checking duties).</p>

<p>To Tennisq: Hazelorb has been a great resource of information on the UVa board. From all I have read from their posts they have a life beyond what you have assumed. A parent should not come on here and judge a student because they have an analytical mind or they live in Brown College. Look around you, have you seen students of this age, they are on the computer most of the time. As for Brown, again you make assumptions regarding the students that live there today. You have a D that is applying to colleges so my guess is you went to UVa a long time ago. I am sure you have good intentions, but this is a forum for discussion not to call out one particular student and be all Dr. Phil on them.</p>

<p>I agree with woosah! From all I have read you sound like an amazing person Hazelorb! Brush it off. Thanks for all your help!</p>