<p>This heady debate crap is ruining the discussion about pizza. I will remedy this.</p>
<p>pizzelle,</p>
<p>dont get mad, but i think what sv3a is trying to say is is that plato's theory no longer is valid in this day and age. The same reason why thucydides idea that the best form of government is a tyrant, then an oligarchy and the worst is democracy doesn't hold today.</p>
<p>just maybe i don't know why don't we all stop talkinga bout this lol</p>
<p>lol@"don't get mad"</p>
<p>I know what he's trying to say...and that's his opinion. I'm saying "ok so we disagree" and he's saying "no, it's not a disagreement, I'm just right and you're wrong." That's the problem. It's not right vs. wrong, in my mind, it's that two people have two totally different perspectives on how they view the world and the behavior of those living in it.</p>
<p>The error in your thinking, and perhaps his, is that you can't just state empirically or definitively that the best form of government ISN'T a dictatorship and that democracies AREN'T the worst. That's an opinion! Your opinions aren't facts, no matter how much you want them to be. There are people today in this world who still believe that. You obviously think they're wrong, and they probably think YOU are wrong. You can provide examples to support your beliefs, and most likely so could they, but you can't just tell someone "you're wrong" and "your beliefs are archaic" and think that's going to fly in intellectual discussion. It's not.</p>
<p>If "your beliefs are archaic" were enough to dissolve the beliefs of modern peoples, then religion would effectively disappear.</p>
<p>oh..my...gosh. why don't you all like, go and read a book or something? pizzelle, i understand all of your "don't break the law" beliefs and all, because I too never plan on drinking, doing drugs etc etc, but seriously, all i wanted to know was about the car situation. i know uperclassmen anyways, so it's not a big issue..geez, this thread just made me not like uva.</p>
<p>This thread made you not like UVA? w-t-f?</p>
<p>...what in the world? Dislike some people AT UVA, perhaps...but dislike the University itself? I hate to be the one to break the news to you, dear, but there are a LOT of people at UVA you would dislike, and whose behavior you would dislike, but you shouldn't dislike the entire University as a whole because of them.</p>
<p>There are a lot of people at EVERY university to dislike.</p>
<p>Not at Tech. : ) : ) : )</p>
<p>i wasn't being serious. gosh! i just said that to point out how you guys spent way too much time arguing over "cars at uva"</p>