The other discussion thread is for early action (and is getting very long), so here is one for regular decision.
Regular decision typically gets results before April 1. (Was March 22 for class of 2022)
The other discussion thread is for early action (and is getting very long), so here is one for regular decision.
Regular decision typically gets results before April 1. (Was March 22 for class of 2022)
@bagellover2 asked if getting deferred was really better than getting denied. Answering here since deferred students are now part of Regular Decision.
Getting deferred is better than a denial if you really want to go to UVA. At least you are still in the running. I know some students who are really upset that they were just denied outright yesterday because UVA isn’t an option at all for them now.
The deferral letters say they made offers to 6500 students in early action this year. Last year, UVA made about 9800 offers total (early & regular), so 6500 is a lot. As you see below, they made 6000 offers last year in early action.
While I’m sure Dean J will post some of this year’s stats in the upcoming days, here are stats from LAST YEAR (Class of 2022):
Early Action Applications
Total number of Early Action applications: 21,573 (20,419 for class of 2021)
Total number of VA apps: 5,897
Total number of OOS apps: 15,676
We use completed applications in our statistics. There are schools that include incomplete applications in their stats.
Early Action Offers
Overall offers: 6,000
Total VA offers: 2,618 (44% offer rate)
Total OOS offers: 3,382 (21.5% offer rate)
Schools admit more students than the enrollment goal with yield in mind.Yield is how many students accept an offer of admission.
Early Action Defers
Overall defers: ~5,300 (Some are offered deferral, but they decline it, and are then out of the pool)
Early Action Testing/Rank (offers only)
Middle 50% SAT score: 1360-1500 (VA) 1440-1540 (OOS)
Middle 50% ACT composite: 31-34 (VA) 33-35 (OOS)
Hoping that those who were accepted, but aren’t really planning to go, will decline their offer and make the spot available for an eager student.
Class of 2023 early action stats from Dean J’s blog:
Early Action Applications
Total number of Early Action applications: 25,098 (21,573 last year, class of 2022)
Total number of VA apps: 7,019
Total number of OOS apps: 18,079
We use completed applications in our statistics.
Early Action Offers
Overall offers: 6,550
Total VA offers: 3,051 (43.4% offer rate)
Total OOS offers: 3,499 (19% offer rate)
Enrollment Goal: ~3,750
Schools admit more students than the enrollment goal with yield in mind. Yield is how many students accept an offer of admission. Virginia residents yield at a higher rate than OOS students.
Early Action Defers
Overall defers: ~7000 as of last Friday
Applicants are withdrawing, so this number is likely much lower today and will continue to do go down.
Early Action Testing/Rank (offers only)
Middle 50% SAT score: 1350-1500 (VA) 1450-1540 (OOS)
Middle 50% ACT composite: 30-34 (VA) 33-35 (OOS)
We use scores from each section in our review, but the reports on averages generate totals. We do not use the essay or writing scores.
Compared to last year:
Early action admit rate was 26% this year, compared to 28% last year.
Virginia residents admit rate was 43% this year, 44% last year
OOS 19% this year, 21% last year
About 28% deferred in total this year, vs 25% last year.
That means 46% were denied during early action this year vs 48% last year.
Early action pool this year was about 25,000. With the admitted in, and the denied out, adding the deferrals to the regular decision applicants means a regular decision pool of about 21,000. (Minus anyone deferred who withdraws)
Good luck everyone!
Someone gave me some analysis pertinent to the regular action pool, based on published data.
If roughly 58% of the in-state offers during early action are accepted, that’s 1749 spots filled.
If roughly 24% of out-of-state offers are accepted, that’s 840 more spots filled.
(58%, 24% based on last year’s yield)
That would mean that about 2588 spots in the 3750 first year target class are potentially filled in early action.
That’s 69% of the class filled PRIOR to regular decision.
If the overall yield is typically 39%, that would mean that roughly 3100 more offers could be made to fill the remaining spots. That would mean a 14% acceptance rate in the regular pool of about 21,000 total applicants.
Math looks correct to me. I hope it’s wrong though! 14% is not a large acceptance rate…
@vamom4 But UVA always said they maintain same admission standard for EA Vs RD and there is no difference. If they have to accept only 14% then the criteria has to be different, right?
I’m not sure. Look at the math yourself.
If there are 21,000 applicants in regular decision, and they accept the same 26% that they did in early, that means they would need to make about 5,700 more offers.
If the same 39% accept that regular offer, then that’s about 2226 more students, in addition to the roughly 2500 accepted early. That would give UVA a class of over 4800.
But the biggest first year class they’ve had in the last 20 years is 3822 last year.
Maybe a lot of students currently in the pool will withdraw their applications, and that will allow for a similar 26% offer rate for regular decision? Maybe the yield is much lower on the early admits vs the regular admits, and therefore they can make more offers?
1280 and 4.1. Applied for RD for our D. Lots of ECs. Premed. From NOVA.
Not sure if this will fly for UVA.
@fairfaxgator did you check your HS naviance? Not to discourage you but as I am hearing from others, UVA is mostly GPA based.
I don’t know about that - my OOS kid (who just got deferred) had a GPA higher than a girl admitted last year from his HS. They have the same SAT score.
@brownpoodle Did both also apply to the same major?
Yes - I think both A&S.
@brownpoodle I am sorry for your son’s deferral. GPA is one factor. I believe that UVA looks at rigor, first and foremost. There are a lot of other variables, of course. My OOS S was deferred as well, as were many of his classmates with higher “stats.” I don’t know his classmates’ particulars, and I don’t think UVA is their top choice school. Quite honestly, my son may have a lower GPA than other applicants from our HS, but he has a great upward trend, strong course rigor and is a legacy (and his sister is currently a 2nd year student at UVA). Hopefully with his strong mid-year grades, he will be accepted in March. UVA is, and has always been, his top choice. We have strong ties to UVA and if he is accepted, he will attend.
Luckily S19 does have other wonderful options already, as I’m sure is the case with your son. Best of luck in this RD round.
Applied RD. Today ‘Mid-year grades missing’ showed up on the portal.
@Bizdock UVA requires mid-year transcripts by 2/15 for RD. Talk to your counsellor and make sure they send it to UVA.
@firstwavemom Thanks. Are you in state? We are OOS. My son had a really hard academic schedule too. He took Honors Precalc and Trig as a sophomore. Only 4 kids did that. He ended up with a B+ but hopefully someone will see that he challenged himself instead of taking the easy A.
Oh wait - you said OOS !!
UVA requires mid year grades for EA and RD applicants. As you calculate acceptance rates also consider that athletic signers have a nearly 100% acceptance rate and yield, further reducing the acceptance rates of non athletes
They do not require mid year or first quarter grades for EA applicants unless deferred to RD
Edit - for EA accepted/deferred students…I should have been more clear.
Hey @brownpoodle we seem to be waiting to hear from some of the same schools!!