UW-Madison vs. Grinnell College

Hey everyone,

I am having the toughest time trying to decide which college I should attend coming this fall. My top two, that I have been accepted to, are UW-Madison and Grinnell College, somewhat of polar opposites.

A little about myself:
-I’m a bit of a nerdy, yet sarcastic, liberal, compassionate, slightly introverted guy who would prefer having a smaller group of friends that are close knit rather than going to huge parties and knowing everybody.
-I do not, and do not plan to, partake in drugs or alcohol at all.
-I am planning on dual majoring in Computer Science & Mathematics with intentions of going onto graduate school.
-I am willing to challenge myself to the utmost reaches to succeed, but also want to be able to have friends, enjoy extracurriculars (Not really sports, maybe intramurals), and potentially have a girlfriend.
-I want to be able to have close connections with professors if possible.

Here are my concerns about each:

UW-Madison:
-I will be lost in a crowd of people (I’m a number to faculty, not a person)
-Party Scene?
-Able to get into extracurriculars easily?

Grinnell:
-Drug/Alcohol Scene? (Please elaborate if you have any knowledge)
-Social scene lacking?

If anybody has any insight as to which school they believe I should consider, please reply. I don’t have THAT much time left to decide. I know that these schools are somewhat wildly different from each other. Thank you in advance.

Both strong academic schools. When you visited which did you see yourself at? What are the cost differences? Why did you choose to apply at such two different schools?

When I visited both schools I enjoyed the time at both. I could see myself at both schools but for different reasons. Grinnell I felt like I could really buckle down and study and probably get some amazing, life long friends but also had the potential for me to be completely alone there whereas UW-Madison I would be around people constantly, I would make friends for certain.

I cost differences are considerable. For me, UW-Madison is around $22,000/year and Grinnell is around $35,000/year.

I applied to a wide breadth of schools, from west coast to east coast, it just happened that out of the schools I was accepted to, my two favorites were polar opposites. I also got accepted to Rochester Institute of Technology & Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute but when I visited the two, neither were as attractive as UW-Madison or Grinnell. RIT was okay, but RPI I hated during my visit.

I’m on the wait list for Carnegie Mellon (Cost is way too high though), U-Chicago, and Case Western Reserve University.

I guess I applied to different schools so that I could have a variety to choose from when it came time to decide. I wasn’t so sure what I had wanted back in the fall.

it’s actually easier to make friends in a smaller community, since you spend a lot of time interacting with the same people: you can easily discern who are your “tribe” and gravitate toward them, whereas in a large university, you have to figure it out as you may encounter a person and never see them again, there’s less interaction during class, etc.
You can mitigate the “big” effects of a large university by joining the HOnors college (there’s an application I think) and by joing a FIG and/or living learning community.

I was unsure about Grinnell as well until I read this. Here is what someone replied to one of my posts (he is transferring to Vandy next year):

I have NO academic problems with Grinnell. If you are looking for a truly academic experience with no real worry about social life, then Grinnell is great for you! There is a reason that Grinnell breeds a lot of PhDs per capita; it’s a really great environment if you passionately love a subject and want to pursue that subject in graduate school.

Unfortunately, the social scene at Grinnell is, in my opinion, very bad. Weekends revolve around two parties (Harris, Gardner) and occasionally some parties on High Street. There are no substance free activities besides [weekend], which is a group that runs the substance free weekend activities (like the name suggests). These activities are usually gym games, board games (yahtzee, monopoly, taboo), or cookie/food decorating. As a college age student, these activities aren’t very fun. They can be alright, but they get old very quickly. The attendance is also probably only 12-20 people from across the entire campus. That’s pretty bad, considering it’s the only substance free event. Occasionally you have karaoke or something of the sort, but not incredibly often. Most of my friends are substance friendly, but they even get tired of no real options other than partying. It’s very much a “work hard, play hard” environment. In town, there is the strand (a local theater) that is fine, but it’s also pretty sad to have to go to the strand every weekend to keep yourself entertained. Shuttles to Des Moines and Iowa City are not well advertised and are about once a month, so you can’t leave town very often if you don’t have a car. In addition, most ECs are dedicated to hobbies (breakdancing, cooking, baking, etc…) and there are very few pre-professional/career exploration/volunteer ECs. Community Meal and tutoring are the only volunteer ECs I can recall. Many clubs are kept relatively secret, so friends can just share/use the campus funding to explore the club interests of their friend group. If they aren’t kept secret, they are usually poorly advertised. FMs come around every week and tear down posters, so groups without high levels of motivation stop putting posters up. During the week, you might find a random guest lecturer or two, which can be fun to go to, but there isn’t much to do beyond that. You can find a hobby-esque club or two to attend, but there isn’t much else to do other than homework. In a way, the social scene is very binary and claustrophobic. I came to college wanting to be very active on campus, but I just can’t find many groups that really give me a high level of fulfillment, since most of them are hobby groups. There are also a lot of social justice groups on campus. They mostly sit and talk about social justice more than they actually practice social justice. This is partially due to youth culture and the isolation of the campus.

SO, in other words, I think Wisco would be better!

^ agreed especially considering the cost differential.

When in doubt, follow the cheese.

@zsusag: That internet review is just one thing to MAYBE take into account. Three things to keep on mind: 1. The first paragraph of the review pretty much matches what you state you are looking for. 2. Grinnell has a high freshman retention rate; transferring out is not common. 3. Your attendance at Grinnell will be as valid as any other student’s in determining what the College is like. If you do attend, make it your own Grinnell.

Best of luck with your decision.

^ keep [in] mind.

Btw, I’m a little surprised you dropped RPI so quickly.