moreover, the typical BLA review time is 8-10 months, once teh app is 100% complete. FDA will likely put this on a priority track, so could be shorter. OTOH, mRNA type vaccines are new, so the feds may require a longer look. Regardless, highly unlikely before school opens in late August, IMO.
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Me eating unhealthy canât get you sick, while a variant (if this keeps going on and on) can.
But I feel ya. I am sure your more zen approach is healthier than the anger I feel at times! 
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Talked my 84 yo aunt into getting a vax. Her son has an appointment but she kept saying no. I told her I got it and had minimal issues and that not only can she go out more and feel safer but she will protect other people. Not that she was going out that much before.
Meanwhile had an outdoor dinner with a twenty something who wonât get it. His dad is head of a hospital and is super pissed off about this situation. I donât think dad was aware that son was eligible. (live far apart) Hoo boy! I think I stirred the pot when I let slip that everyone here is eligible now.
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Although you eating unhealthy canât get someone else sick, it can definitely âcost themâ in that to the extent you become, say, morbidly obese, diabetic, develop related respiratory issues, etc. then the outsized burden you place on our healthcare system does, to some degree, get passed on to everyone else.
The truth is there are very few choices we make that donât generate some amount of cost externalities. You get on the highway? Youâve just made traffic incrementally worse for everyone on the road, and the air quality incrementally worse for everyone. Perhaps low or minor, but not zero.
To be clear: I believe that covid vaccines should be mandatory.
I wonât be getting the vaccine but I donât consider myself an antivaxxer. I respect other peopleâs decision to get the vaccine, but as a younger, healthy person whoâs recovered from COVID-19 in the last few months, I will continue to trust my natural immune system to do its job.
With regard to an earlier dismissive comment about vitamins, I would encourage all readers to do some independent research on that - such as Vitamin D deficiency. Fascinating stuff!
Life is full of risks and safety is never guaranteed. Virus or no virus. With all the data we now have, letâs get our most vulnerable vaccinated (if they choose) and get back to normal - we have treatments that work and hospitals will never come close to being overrun again (most never were overrun), which, if youâll remember, was the whole point of flattening the curve.
All that said, Iâm wishing everyone the best - whether you decided to get the vaccine or not.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk!
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Not commenting on the post above, just a general comment.
I see people saying that they donât want the vaccine because they donât get the flu vaccine.
And I wonder about the message that is getting out there. Wouldnât COVID be more like polio than the flu? People got polio and recovered, I think some had no lingering issues. Some had medical problems and some died.
Why was the polio vaccine accepted by the public yet the COVID vaccine has resistance? Is it social media? The internet? Differing public thought as to doing for the public instead of the individual?
I wasnât around when the polio vaccine came out, so I donât know how the vaccine response was.
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How do you propose getting back to normal in the states which have tied re-opening to the proportion of citizens who get vaccinated?
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Anyone who thinks that we have treatments for COVID and that our hospitals are not overrun and never were.
Come to Michigan, try and go to the emergency room to get treatment?Try and schedule a non essential surgery? Look at our ICU capacity? See how COVID has spread into even our most remote counties.
And then see how our stores, our restaurants are full and of maskless people. How our governor has asked us to voluntarily not do those things. And how our high school sports are going off as usual.
Our vaccinations are not going fast enough, they arenât going to out run this surge. They just arenât.
But we can pretend that they are. Because here in Michigan we already are.
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Reopening should not be tied to the proportion of citizens getting vaccinated.
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Are you claiming there are no treatments being used to treat patients with COVID?
I live in a state with COVID stats that are comparable to Michigan, except our mask compliance is close to 90% or higher. Anecdotally, I have seen exactly 2 people without masks in a store in the past year and I have been going into stores since about this time last year.
This is a seasonal respiratory virus which is not going to get to zero. There will be âsurgesâ every winter.
COVID doesnât seem to be seasonal. I worry that unvaccinated folks will be reservoirs for variants, rendering the vaccines less effective. I am terrified of a vaccine due to a sensitivity to an ingredient but I am going to get one, because it is about other people and public health, not just ourselves. But I also have a 94 year old mother in a facility, so that is an added motivator for me.
Oops. @cj9623 I pressed the wrong reply button- wasnât addressing you specifically.
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SO much to say. So little of it likely allowed by CCâs TOS 
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There are ways to treat Covid, but personally I would rather be vaccinated than have to go the doctor or hospital because I got Covid and didnât get the vaccine. Just my opinion.
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With polio, about 70% had asymptomatic infections, and only about 1% had long term after effects, and only about 0.2% died. For COVID-19, the asymptomatic rate has been variously estimated to be in the range of 20-75% (usually around 50%), but the long term after effect rate has been variously estimated to be in the range of 10-85% (usually around 30%), and the death rate is usually estimated to be in the range of 0.5-1%. COVID-19 also has easy airborne transmissibility.
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You have a good immune system and it did itâs job - that is great!
But my concerns are:
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that the person next to you doesnât have an immune system as strong as yours (as you unknowingly spready the illness)
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and that your immune system may not be able to react so well to a variant that pops up this year, next year, in 5 yearsâŠ
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Because we have become complacent.
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Lol! I saw more than 2 unmasked people this morning when I stopped into the gas station to get coffee after my dentist appointment.
How I wish people here were more compliant with our mask mandate
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I havenât been keeping up with Covid treatments. Last time I checked they werenât that great or they were extremely expensive.
My daughter (early 30âs) had mild Covid in February and was absolutely delighted yesterday when a friend set up a vaccine appointment for her next week. (Pfizer) (The friend is one of those angels who finds appointments for others - she has already scheduled a few dozen appointments). DD would have set up her own appointment, but hadnât put in a whole lot of effort to scouting out a spot). The problem is that having Covid once does NOT mean that a person can never get it again-- and the new variants throw a wrench into everything. I think my daughter saw her own bout with Covid as somewhat of a reprieve from worrying for a couple of months, but certainly not some sort of vaccine-equivalent.
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Maybe not, but it is in some states, including illinois where I live. If 70% of adults donât get vaccinated we canât fully re-open. Meaning people who own businesses will continue to lose money, more will close permanently, some people wonât be able to work, etc. Seems a high price to pay for those who get vaccinated.