Villanova, Fordham, College of the HC ... Manhattan College & St. Joseph's University

<p>According to Google Maps, Holy Cross is only 41.8 miles to Boston (or 59 minutes) driving the Mass Pike (I90).</p>

<p>The Holy Cross shuttle to Boston takes 45 minutes to get to Faneuil Hall. There is also a shuttle to Providence which takes about 50 minutes.</p>

<p>Because of Fordhamā€™s financial offer, my decision is now between Fordham and Holy Cross.
I should make a pros and cons list of the two schools since I have free time ā€¦
Academically, I think Holy Cross has the edge for bio, chem, and classics. Their montserrat program seemed really interesting. Also, to fill requirements at Holy Cross, I could take more advanced theology classes (I attended a Jesuit high school so I donā€™t need basic theo classes).<br>
On the other hand, Fordhamā€™s bio and chem programs were good although not great. The core curriculum at Fordham was better than I expected, but I still prefer requirements over core.<br>
The 3-2 engineering program would be a huge consideration for me at Fordham and I would probably go the pre med route for Holy Cross for preliminary tracks.</p>

<p>Socially, Fordham is the clear winner. Even though I wanted to leave NYC (Iā€™ve lived in Brooklyn all my life), Worcester is not even comparable to NYC. However, this isnā€™t as huge of factor for me as the community and students on campus. Holy Cross is a smaller, closer knit community, but I didnā€™t get that feeling as much at Fordham. I visited both schools and stayed overnight at Holy Cross, but preferred Holy Crossā€™ campus. Still, NYC is better than Worcester.</p>

<p>Financially, Holy Cross is at 23k/yr with more student loans and Fordham is at 20.5k/yr. Even though Holy Cross has the better academic programs, Fordham with itā€™s social and financial offers makes this decision a lot harder than it has to be -__-</p>

<p>In less than 2 weeks, you narrowed down from 5 great choices to 2.</p>

<p>Most who start 3/2 donā€™t finish. Some because the course are tough; more because they want to graduate from school 1. </p>

<p>Flip a coin.</p>

<p>If you donā€™t like the outcome, then that means you really wanted the other choice.</p>

<p>I think youā€™ll be great at either!</p>

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<p>I wouldnt rate Holy Cross superior in Bio and Chem necessarily. The Provost at Fordham is a PhD in Environmental Biology and he has substantiallyl upgraded the programs and adding new degrees. Further, Theology at Fordham is INCREDIBLE. As in TRUMPS HOLY CROSS. The American Catholic Studies Center (Curran Center) is simply amazing and offers unbelievably challenging courses and allows for some personal twists on how to formulate your degree, plus its an Honors Program that comes with a stipend, its by INVITATION OF THE FACULTY ONLY after Freshman year and is often combined with double majors.</p>

<p>I understand your attraction to Holy Cross. I get that. I get that being away from home is fun. Boston is a fun place to do stuff. (Daughter in grad school up there.) But I also think you are going on perceived prestige. Holy Cross is an LACā€¦and Fordham is in the very tough and National Research Universities rankings. A huge difference. </p>

<p>Just make sure as you make your legal pad list of pros and cons that you have accurate and up to date information. </p>

<p>No hard feelings if you pick Holy Crossā€¦its a very personal decision and you are the one going to (that) college, not me or anyone here on CC. </p>

<p>Fordham has been pumping out Fulbright scholars in the boatloads by the way.</p>

<p>The last thing I want to select my college on is prestige. I have thoroughly researched all of the programs for both schools. Fordhamā€™s theology program is better than Holy Cross (and also itā€™s history and philosophy departments I might add). And, I know Fordhamā€™s bio and chem programs are in much better positions than they were just a few years ago. Holy Cross still has an edge in those programs, but Fordham bio and chem classes were very intriguing. The med school acceptance rate at Fordham has been on the rise (even though thatā€™s not necessarily the best indicator for strength in pre-med programs). As I continue to reflect on this decision, Fordham seems like the more obvious pick. Before the college process began, I was dead set on attending Fordham. My cousin went there and many of my upperclassmen friends went there and said great things about the school. But then my guidance counselor wanted me to expand my horizons and I thought of the prospect of attending schools such as Cornell (where I was rejected), Villanova, and Holy Cross.</p>

<p>Iā€™m probably going to send me deposit to Fordham for a few reasons:
1)NYC is better than Worcester
2)A very diverse and effective liberal arts curriculum with the resources of a university. Even though Iā€™m on a premed/engineering track, Iā€™m not sure what Iā€™m going to study. Ironically, my best subject has always been history. I might even go the humanities route!
3)It is financially better to attend Fordham than Villanova and Holy Cross.
4)After meeting and talking to President McShane for an extended period of time, I have definitely bought in to what he is trying to accomplish at Fordham. He has aspirations for Fordham to be a better university than Georgetown and I am confident that Fordham can get there. Talking to him not only as a Fordham President, but as a Regis alma mater is also a great experience.<br>
5)Fordham is academically challenging, but as a Regis grad, I know I have the aptitude to graduate at the top of the class and distinguish myself from many others in the university.
6)I do intend to work and live in NYC and the Fordham name definitely holds a lot more meaning in NYC than any of the other schools I have been accepted to.</p>

<p>When writing a pros and cons list, Fordham was the clear winner. Iā€™m 90% sure Iā€™ll be part of the Fordham class of 2016.</p>

<p>Congratulations! It certainly sounds like you did an excellent job analyzing the pros and cons of each of your outstanding college choices.</p>

<p>My S is a senior at Fordham and has absolutely loved his four years there. And he got into a top grad program in his field for next year. It is a special place.</p>

<p>I just sent the deposit to Fordham!</p>